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No. I said only top tiers, so Yonko or Admiral level characters, are a threat to them. That doesn't make them top tiers. I literally said they're the bridge between YC1 and Admiral level, that means they're stronger than all high tiers but weaker than entry-level top tiers.

When the hell did I claim Zoro and Sanji were top tiers? :kaidowhat: It's not my take that's fanatical, it's the imaginary one you're addressing.

Problem is you use the fanatic/hater card every time you disagree. Their Egghead and Elbaf showings, along with them factually growing stronger through their battles each arc - stated in the manga - is more telling than Crocodile "seemingly" (headcanon) defeating 3 Seraphims. He has his 1.9...

Law and Kid are Admiral level in my book, current Sabo probably is too. Shiryu will be even stronger than Admirals, once he reaches his ceiling. Ace is dead and he was YC3 at best, he never reached his full potential. I'm not sure where I'd put Hancock, but I'd say she's YC1 at best. Heck, she...

Bounty isn't just about strength, especially when we talk about someone as influential as Crocodile. Mihawk respecting him doesn't mean he's relative to Sanji either. This is a Yonko crew we're talking about, only Admiral/Yonko level characters are a threat to Luffy's wings.

Lol. I've no doubt Crocodile got a lot of stronger and is now a powerhouse, but extreme diff? Even Lucci wouldn't push Sanji to extreme diff, at this point.

Clowndon deciding for us whether we should be spoiled, as if we were kids. As usual, this guy thinks too highly of himself and enjoys the "power" he has over the fandom a little too much.

For real, I genuinely don't get why they do the same thing every week thinking it's hilarious.

Week next break.

Nothing changed, he's getting it this arc.

Then Oda should do a better job with them. Are you satisfied with the way he's been handling them or it bothers you?

The Gorosei was poorly handled, no doubt, but clearly not to the same extent. All the SHs could do against them was buy time.

Queen wasn't jobbing constantly, he felt like a genuine threat. I don't know how you can compare him getting ko'd for 30 seconds to HKs' treatment. They're really not. Then it's time for these things to actually make a difference. So far, it hasn't been the case.

There's something called "aura". When villains job all the time, it just kills tension and readers don't feel a sense of threat, regardless of whom these villains lose to. If they can't take down top tiers, don't have them face top tiers constantly. It's not rocket science. It's perfectly...

Can you please stop playing the hate card just because you disagree? I get it's convenient, but it's annoying. Imagine if someone kept calling you an HK wanker because of your stance. People's issue with the HKs in the first place is that they seem weak, so I don't know why you make it sound...

It's about what he said, even he acknowledged the fact they're totally unimpressive. Imo it just sounds like excessive damage control on your part. Imu better have something else up his sleeve to buff them up because they look like utter clowns right now.

Go tell that to Sanji.

Your comparison is weird. The HKs jobbed against everyone and their mother, even Sanji called them weak. It's literally acknowledged in the story. Queen was considered a real threat and powerhouse from start to finish. Queen struggled against a Yonko and the WSM's YC1, two characters we knew...

Yeah, but still, I really feel like they want to plant seeds for SaNa. Oda is probably the only reason they don't cross that line openly.

Am I the only one who noticed how hard the LA writers seem to push for SaNa to happen? Even they know it's the best ship. :willight: