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Yes, if you compare pre saboady Luffy to wano zoro. Luffy didn't have 'control' over CoC in his entire preskip. He has grown strong from pre saboady and hence he was able to knock out some warriors in amazon lily, then in marineford, nearly knocked out some vice admirals. All these times, Luffy...

Oh yes, 'They are out of their own headcanon.' :suresure: 'They are out of their own headcanon.' Not according to Kaidou.

No, CoC can not be 'trained' Good to know that Zoro in wano > pre Saboady Luffy. :milaugh:

'They are out of their own headcannon.' And you said this 'He would have already split skies with kaido itself.' :milaugh: you lot are the most confusing and paradoxical bunch. Again 'They are out of their own headcannon.' :suresure: Go, take rest.

read idiot and isn't it the other way around :milaugh: The user becomes stronger, his CoC will grow stronger. He trained for CoA and CoO. Again, read the manga. CoC users are born with CoC. Unlocking them is only a matter of time. Zoro 'unlocked' CoC not 'trained'

Yes, it is 'supernova vs yonkou' hence no Sanji Luffy vs Kaidou sky splitting is a 'replica' of Roger vs Whitebeard, Shanks vs Whitebeard, or Bigmom vs Whitebeard. A world class battle in gorosei words. The same logic you can apply to Zoro not having sky-splitting feat. Zoro is not yonko range...

Lol, they are talking while lying down and that happened after CoC burst. So please stop with mental gymnastics of 'probably, maybe, ' etc to cope. :milaugh: Zoro didn't have 'adCoC' in his arsenal when the rooftop happened. In only the last attack unconsciously he unlocked CoC. Who knows...

Read manga at least once. CoC can't be trained. And don't shoot yourself in the foot. Now, why bring the first usage when the thread is about how 'good' the usage is? CoC directly relates to the strength of the user. Are you implying that Zoro is above the pre skip pre saboady arc Luffy? :milaugh:

CoC can't be 'trained'. It can only be 'controlled'. Did Zoro realize yet that he is using CoC coating then? Of course, Luffy merged with G4 immediately. And could use as proficient as Kaidou. Dude combined both CoC and ryou.

Yes sure. They are unconscious. :milaugh: So? we will discuss when that happens. Until then, there is no substance for you to wank. Can you do that argument for Sanji that Sanji can do the same as Zoro on the rooftop by using the fact that Sanji was 'never allowed' to face 2 yonkos along with...

And Luffy can knock 50000 people, but Zoro can't Luffy can split skies, Zoro can't And Luffy unlocked CoC coating in a matter of seconds after seeing Kaidou. Zoro unconsciously unlocked coc coating against Kaidou. Luffy used the same as soon as got up. No other CoC user Luffy fought coated...

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No need to be alts. Copy paste and change grammar. They have an odd-even formula. Rules change depending on the context.

Dumbass he used CoC coating to scar Kaidou and that is anyways paper cut. Yes, sure, King is more durable than Kaidou. :milaugh: Marco made him bleed without even advanced CoA.

they think 10 bots parroting the same thing will make the argument correct :gokulaugh:

Lmao this thread. :suresure: Luffy is einstein compared to these turds. Luffy CoC helped him to go toe to toe with Kaidou even in base form, whereas Zoro CoC helped him to become king of hell to overcome a mere YC1. Luffy didn't need CoC coating to beat YC1 alike. Making these cringe...

'Victim of circumstance' is the last thing you use as an excuse for 'terrorists' :milaugh: It is understandable to have a grudge against Konoha but attacking irrelevant people and mass destruction are terrorist ideologies. 1672733954 Everyone in Akatsuki are 'victim of circumstances' then...

Add Toki also.

Nope, it is not for a greater cause. He just wants to protect his terrorist friend. :suresure:

Nice rewrite. If only Oda thought through this deep instead of forcing 'Japanese samurai' shit more than necessary importance to scabbards/Oden/momo/Tama/Toko etc. Add Toki being relevant to the story other than just being a housewife for self insert 'Oda'n.