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People still really think Kaido and Big Mom are dead? :choppawhat: As for Oda killing more, it's understandable considering we are entering endgame. A lot of artists tend to save the overload of deaths for the ending of their series.

Oden had the power of "Let's turn Kaido into a mountain sized target for the Swordsman to fight" plot on his side.

It's Highlander. There can be only one. Once all the Punks are dead, the last one standing will reunite with Punk Records and Vegapunk will be whole again.

He is. The issue comes with people thinking he can finish Lucci whenever he wants, but for some ungodly reason, he doesn't. If he can do that, then he should, so he can go help the ones that are in immediate danger. And I know, "But Lucci is an awakened Zoan and will get back up!" Well if...

No, Luffy turning into an old man happens whenever he comes out of G5. It doesn't matter if it's two minutes, or he runs the clock down. The result is always the same. Just like when he use to come out of G4, and be exhausted. It's his drawback.

Whatever you say Mr. Clown.

I do get your point, and it's utterly garbage. Luffy put Lucci down in two minutes, after landing a handful of solid attacks. Zoro has been unable to land a single hit on Lucci in 30 minutes. How you fail to see the difference between these two instances is beyond me. And you think...

"Panel time Scaling" :usoprice:

Bro is really comparing panel time, like Oda methodically sits down and has an algebraic formula on how he wants his powerscaling to be perceived and only the Zoro fandom can crack this meticulous code. :gokulaugh:

This man is really gonna compare "panels" when Luffy vs Lucci was a 2 minute fight at max, and Zoro's been fighting for at least 30 minutes..... Smh This is what the Zoro fandom has been reduced to... "Panel Scaling"... Yall just keep getting more impressive with the bs. Everytime we think...

Yet is still struggling with Lucci, whom Luffy made out to look like a toy..... :parkcry:

I love how Zoro fans act like Kizaru is some sort of scrub when it comes to making fun of Sanji, but they desperately want Zoro to fight him, to validate Zoro... "Haha, Sanji's getting handled by Kizaru, what a bitch." "The only person who can beat someone of such a high caliber as an Admiral...

Still waiting on Zoro to finish Lucci "whenever he wants" and join in on actually protecting the crew.

Exhaustion plays a role buddy. Go watch the Mohammed Ali fight against George Foreman. His biggest tactic was to let his opponent wear himself out, so he could get the easy KO.

That doesn't negate what Doflamingo said about how it burns through his haki, and wears him out.

He always did when G4 was first intoduced, because it rapidly drains his haki.

That was from the drawback of G4.

That's false. Cracker fought Luffy for over 10 hours, and wasn't even a fraction of in the bad shape that Lucci and Zoro are in. Dude didn't have a single mark on him, and was only fatigued. So either those two have garbage tier stamina and endurance to be looking that bad after clashing for...

Damage and fatigue does not affect One Piece characters from operating at a high end level. In almost all instances characters perform their best when they are at thier worst.

They've been fighting for close to 30 minutes, shortened of breath, sweating, and covered in bruises. They are not fine.