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You mean the doriki counter? The doriki counter is for AP. The doriki counter doesn’t measure things like sword skill and speed. jyabura inflating his own strength is expected

No one in the story ever says Jyabura is stronger than Kaku before

And then Kaku ate a df immediately after establishing that power level and Jyabura literally says he doesn’t want Kaku to eat that df because he’s scared of how far Kaku will rise above him do you also remember that?

Whatever Oda decides it is from one character to another. again, rocks was famous for his blunt force swordsmanship Zoro’s hawk wave and Zoro’s rhino cycle and and Zoro’s tatsumaki are all blunt attacks And using blunt attacks is swordsmanship, exactly like how the narrator says Rocks does...

Nope. There is no “core principle of swordsmanship” in one piece. No panel of such a statement exists in the manga. So what? Rocks and Zoro and Ryuma produce blunt damage from their blades too your argument is that ONLY doing blunt damage disqualifies you. so what if you only do flying slashes...

Do you literally not see any visual distinction between the damage Garp did and the damage Roger did? You don’t see the holes that Garp’s fists did and you don’t see the slashes Roger did, including slashing off Rocks’ leg? you’re the only person who sees the panel and things Roger and Garp are...

The topic of the thread is “Roger isnt a swordsman” your “proof” that Roger isn’t a swordsman is that he did blunt damage. And I’m saying many swordsmen do blunt damage. Zoro does blunt damage. Rocks does blunt damage. Ryuma did blunt damage (in fact Ryuma’s lunge attack was directly referred...

Oh now you’re saying that rocks was only cut to pieces because he’s a demon? do you see why I don’t agree with you, when you keep stacking headcanon on top of headcanon like this? You’ve already decided your conclusion and so you just keep additional adding things on top to support the...

Don’t worry I always disagree with everything you say There is no blunt damage in the story that cuts people to pieces like that also, swordsmen do blunt damage all the time, as shown by Rocks who was famous for it

Except he cuts off Rocks’ leg.

Because Roger wasn’t actually close enough for his sword to hit him again, are you implying that Roger’s swords physically cannot cut Rocks?

Yeah. Is this not a long range attack? I mean Roger’s sword attack can physically hit Rocks can’t it?

You mean Roger isn’t a swordsman because he chose to do a long range attack when he could have chosen a short range one? you mean like this

I posted a panel of Zoro “executing range attack in close quarter combat” why does this matter so what exactly is happening to Rocks’ right leg here?

Do you not see Rocks’ leg falling to pieces? You posted the panel yourself. In the panel you posted, you don’t see anything happening to Rocks’ leg? Also are you now claiming king range attacks can’t cut?

It cuts through Xebec’s leg. It cuts him to pieces. That’s how it’s a cutting attack

No that happened the panel before it’s Zoro launching an air slash

Why are you editing the image, I have eyes I can see shit without the edits Zoro has those same impact effects when he uses his swords

What did he do to Rocks?