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I dismiss the strength reason coz there are multiple examples that prove it isn’t as black and white as you’re making it out to be. One counter argument to the strength argument I made is the Blackbeard Pirates who are the foil of the SHs. They have Kuzan who at this point is stronger than all...

Apart from the pretty obvious points that folks have laid out in favor of Loki joining the SHs, one strong narrative indication that Loki joins I think is the flashback we just had, particularly Rocks & Harald’s relationship & potential parallels btw Loki & Luffy in the current time line. Rocks...

Shanks apparently had a talk with Loki prior to Luffy and em arriving on Elbaf and Loki seems to know where Shanks is at so what are the chances that Shanks told Loki to tell Luffy where he'd be coz he knew he’d be coming to Elbaf? Also knowing Shanks and how proud he is off Luffy, I wouldn't be...

With the flame upgrade I see it as more character progression for Sanji. Wano was an arc of acceptance for Sanji, with him acknowledging the Vinsmoke side of himself and resolving himself to not allow himself to be controlled it and Oda titled that progression phase of Sanji's character "warrior...

I hear the killing angle but don't think that's what Oda'z going for tbh, more so the angle of someone that judges people which I think will tie into his next PU so basically King of Hell (Satan for example). Iblis Jambe/Satan Jambe etc.

@Naomi I hear you and we on the same team but you gotta stop sleeping on the chicken wings :beckmoji: Loki allowed to join the monster-trio dynamic though :milaugh: @kekaro welcome to the club fam will be remembered as being on the right side of history :BigW: (know u're trolling like the the...

I'm still a strong believer that Loki joins tbh and nothing in this flashback has really changed anything for me (look forward to how the Loki is god-tier lads weasel themselves outta of that pickle:milaugh:) PL-wise for Sanji future developments I see for him are: *PoL - This will most...

Your argument was that Loki is too strong to join and my counter argument is Aokiji as that's quite literally one of the arguments folks made prior to him joining the BB Pirates but here we are :risisweat: At this point I'm still not sure who Aokiji fights tbh.

Imagine thinking Sanji struggles with Super Sommers :vistalaugh: (*jab at rumble :YeahBoi:) Responded to Raiden in the spoiler thread on this topic but reckon Sanji is going to be delegated with saving the kids and then we see him flex PoL against Super Sommers thorns to save the kids which could...

I see the agenda but will bite regardless 😂 Crazy folks can still make this argument with Aokiji being a BB Pirate :risisweat: Can see the rationale for those that have Loki god tier/demi-god tier+ etc. but he’s not lol and I look forward to the way mofos mental gymnastics their way out of...

Yh I think so too. Even more so since there was absolutely no emphasis on it with regard to Garp on God Valley but I wouldn’t be surprised if Oda reveals that he’s able to use it. For one his physical abilities are pretty ridiculous for a human.

Honestly I can help but be intrigued by "PoL" and given all the build up Oda gave it on Egghead I do really hope he expatiates on it this arc. A strong theme of Egghead was that "love overcomes all and has no limits" (i.e. "Love has no limits", "Love doesn't hold a candle to light" etc.) so...

I don't think he does to be honest and there is precedent for this. Would be interesting if Loki is indeed that strong as we'd have another legendary figure of the same ilk as Nika and Davy Jones but there hasn't really been any indication of that from the narrative. Rocks statement to Imu was...

I actually think the Shilouhette looks like a Fenrir but we can disagree on this. Also Ragnir being a squirrel is actually a point in favor of my argument not against. If Loki is the Ratatoskr it'd make sense that a squirrel was defending the DF given they're the same species.

On this topic, I’m not gonna lie, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was a squirrel 😂 Oda is obsessed with subverting expectations and everybody at this point either thinks it’s going to be a Fenrir or a Nihogg so it might be something entirely different. For each case, there is a cover page that...

Loki has no bearing on how high Zoro and Sanji scale, Luffy does, so whether he joins or not is irrelevant to that. Only folks that will take Ls are the ones that have him god tier :risisweat:. Will be funny as hell to see the mental gymanstics y'all play to get urselves outta of that...

ah! that's true :risisweat: story telling wise I guess that'd be a good way to progress the plot and make the Blackbeard Pirates strong enough to be formidable enemies for the SHs. Hmmn...so no hyperbolic time chamber for the SHs then lol Still would be nice to have them grow a bit stronger...

Skeptical about the SHs learning Haki etc. just coz I don't think Oda is going to invest that much time in a training arc but it's true that the weaker SHs need more development. One ting I reckon could potentially come into play is the emphasis Oda's been putting on "time" since the start of...

Actually think the opposite, I think Sanji's next flames could potentially be something akin to "amaterasu" which can't be put out via regular means. Might be hard to imagine it given Sanji's CQC based but think of it like a "bleed" type attack where each attack Sanji gets in leaves lasting pain...

Akuma -> "悪魔 " is a blanket term for demon or devil but can also be used to refer to a regular demon from a class heirarcy perspective. Majin -> "魔神" or "魔人" first and foremost is a "high ranking demon", how hight the rank is depends on the story itself but it's literally translation is...