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Queen was absolutely dumb but king and kaido weren't being dumb. - Kaido wanted to fight luffy head on, wasn't a character that would run from a fight, and thought he'd melt Luffy's arm off. There's no reason for kaido not the take the attack head on in his character. You could make the argument...

Admirals act out of justice and have a loyalty aspect to the marines which is a arm of the wg. If all Admirals decided to turn on the wg sure they'd lose but it take the combined effort of the entire wg to put them down.

Kidd bm already had 2 chances as the big bad and she doesn't deserve a third shot. She really doesn't have anyone to fight and she's been knocked out of the yonko. Kidd has the whole redemption angle and he has potential to grow in different ways. He actually has a reason to come back and he can...

Oda obviously redid king abilities. Zoro was able to hurt king before but then couldn't in their 1 v 1 because oda flushed out his abilities completely. Marco was on the losing end to king. King has shown more ap, better cqc ability, and better haki. Marco shown being faster, has a better...

I'd say the strength of the haki is. Some just using haki sn't impressive but someone using strong harden coa will be. Say for example with get a character like weevil vastly overpowering someone like jinbe with harden coa. That would be impressive.

Jinbe has a reason and probably will for shanks to not fight the 3rd strongest. With kaido that was obviously neko or inu fight as they were strong enough to beat Jack for revenge. With shanks ussop will likely fight yassop as the father son fight of snipers and the fight may even mimic luffy vs...

Would be good to see him more flushed outand to get a gauge on how strong he is and was in his prime.

Yea from the end of mf to egghead is night and day. I'm saying oda did nerf akainu in mf as luffy was right in front of akainu along with 2 other admirals yet he didn't do anything and let luffy attack him despite being able to easily kill luffy. Yea if oda doesn't hold them back and let's them...

Yea my point is he won't do that nor will any admiral show crazy stuff because the shs have to live. Again akainu hates pirates and want to kill them but just stood there and looked at luffy and didn't even attack him when he was right in front of him. Akainu was made to be out of character if...

But if they arrived on egghead they wouldn't show these abilities. If the 5 admirals shown up kuzan should immediately flash freeze everyone and only really zoro luffy and sanji should be able to get out of that. Then they'd he destroyed by the 5 admirals. But that wouldn't happen just like...

1. Do you not know what second coming is? Luffy is the joyboy of this generation if you can't accept basic facts here just stop quoting me. If you are that desperate for luffy not to be a chosen one type character that you are willing to ignore obvious there's nothing to say to you because you...

Shs still survive because the the story needs them to. You can put the 5 yonko, the top 5 from old gen or whoever you think is top 5 strongest all time and the shs still escape because the story needs to continue. Gorosei were held back by plot. I'm sure once they fight they will look alot...

Yeah he does I said that. Gf are part of the sh'sbut luffy doesn't command them and they are free to do whatever they want. Luffy just sails with his core crew he doesn't sail with a fleet.

1. No luffy is literally the second coming of joyboy. Literally characters that knew joyboy said he has returned talking about luffy. Luffy is joyboy #2. 2. You didn't and it doesn't matter what you think manga is the manga. Having stuff predestined only for luffy makes luffy the chosen 1...

At this point just let kidd stay in his lane. He's not some overarching villain or some crazy strong guy. He is a strong pirate that will probably be a ally in the final war. If he decided fight luffy after the final war he'd lose badly and that's if he can even reach luffy by the amount of...

Yea zoro represents ryuma and Rayleigh for the new gen. By structure its just that luffy goes with a small crew that very top heavy.

Imo the shs are somewhat modeled after Roger crew. They aren't a yonko modeled crew where there's 1 top tier 3 high tier and alot of mid tiers and thousands of low tiers to fodder characters. It just luffys core crew mainly with the extention of his grand fleet which luffy didn't want and...

1. There's nothing to debunk luffy is that. Unless you are changing the manga luffy is the second coming of joboy, he was the one oden wrote about, and he is the 1 Roger was waiting for. This is predestined stuff that was accounted for before luffy was even born. He is a chosen 1 type character...

He is the chosen one - he was the one oden wrote about - he is the one Roger waited for - he is the second coming of joyboy - he has every special ability that few are said to have in this series - he was the person destined to be pk He is a stereotypical chosen 1 type character. It doesn't...

Haki is just king. If you over rely on df and don't improve your haki much then you aren't beating a character with great haki. It's just now the higher up in strength of fighters the more haki is important. Just relying on a df isn't bad it just caps how strong you can be in op.