In the op I never said kizaru was defeated, I said if kizaru is still immobile and the only reason fluffy can't properly finish him is because the gorosei are holding him down (remember 3 minutes has passed), does it count as a fluffy win
Oda won’t silhouette imu and gorosei in a similar fashion also if it was imu where is Jupiter
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Where is Jupiter cause all the silhouettes had eyes
show proof that someone brought food to fluffy. cause as far as I remember fluffy can stretch his hand (and the vending machine was in a close proximity)
ALSO fluffy was immobile cause f his fruit not kizaru, did you not read the manga
who has a better feat
A
Defeated isreal in less than 5 minutes and knocked out makhachev twice in the span of 20 minutes
B
Defeating Israel in the span of 23 minutes
Does it count if kizaru as being down for the past 3 minutes and luffy could have finished him in that time span but could not because of the gorosei.
Or would kizaru have defended himself if luffy choose to attack him
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