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What exactly about their attacks is "akin to each other"? We know seraphims are invincible with flames on, so how can you compare which one is stronger?

You don't need a panel for everything, you can use deductive reasoning. We don't see him non-ko'd in that instance. But we do see him claiming that he is losing consciousness. Keep being deluded

Fighting against a Seraphim together is not the same as them fighting against each other. Two different things.

What's the point exactly of having a permanent scar? Did Oden achieve anything with his permanent scar? No, nothing. Did Zoro? No. The only thing achieved was Kaido saying "you gave me a scar". In the grand scheme of things, that scar literally did nothing.

It does just before getting KO'd. You don't see him not getting KO'd either. So until we see one or the other, we are stuck. Based on the evidence (Lucci claiming he is in the process of losing consciousness), we have to believe that he did get KO'd. There is ZERO evidence that he didn't get...

The only thing we see is Luffy Troll diffing Lucci in G5. We shall never know how G4, G3, G2 would do against Lucci because we haven't SEEN it on panel. That's your own logic. So neither of us can claim that he "needed" G5 to beat Lucci. He needed it to no diff him, sure, but not needed to beat...

Zolo himself admitted he at LEAST thought he would bring Kaido to his knees LOL

No, you are assuming that he needed to get punched more to get KO'd. As far as we are concerned, he was KO'd, since he himself was claiming he was losing consciousness. Enough said, you are deluded.

If you're using "Oda stalling" reason, then Luffy used G5 because of plot. simple You use Oda as reason, I use Oda as reason 1709128273 yeah true, no point wasting breath on them

Lucci never says "If Luffy keeps attacking me", you're assuming that to fit your narrative. He NEVER says it. So you can't just assume. 1709116275 That's the drawback of using g5, it's not a Lucci W. Lucci still got packed up into a cat sandwhich. Oh yeah he didn't think he was a Yonko, but...

used G5 to absolutely troll diff him. Don't see Zolo troll diffing Lucci, just huffing and puffing like he's Thomas the Tank Engine. Why is Zolo no using his peak to get the job done? Clearly Luffy is just smarter or Zolo can't actually easily dispose of Lucci

You need to think about what happens next, not what happens right now. You can't live life taking everything at face value, because that leaves you no flexibility. Yes, Lucci says "I am losing consciousness" instead of "I have lost consciousness", but obviously he wouldn't be able to say it if...

not enough damage to bring him to his knees. It's enough to cause a flesh wound, sure, but in the grand scheme of things, it means nothing, since Kaido was unfazed.

oh god Lucci might actually be Ladmiral level, Lucci stocks going up. Explains why Zolo struggling tbh.:suresure:

It was confirmed as soon as the concept of Yonko was introduced. It was re-confirmed multiple times, this is just another time for the people who can't read (aka Ladmiral fans).

What's the point of a scar if it does no damage, even your boi Zolo said he didn't even bring him to his knees, yikes, that's an L.

All this chapter does is re-confirm that Kaido is clear of fraudmirals.

Yeah that's unreal to me as well. How is the speed of light not enough to land a single hit on Luffy, yet Kaido was here giving Nika club marks.

I think what's truly making Ladmiral fans malding is that this once and for all proves that Yonko >> Ladmiral. See how Kaido was actually keeping up with G5 and responding to all of his attacks. Kizaru got floored by white star gun, yoinked by a no name punch and now pancaked WITHOUT being able...