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You don't even need to go as far as rooftop Zoro ~ rooftop Luffy, even though that is likely true. Rooftop Zoro is undeniably considerably stronger than pre Udon Luffy, even most Zoro haters would agree on it, that is all that's needed. Outcome of Zoro vs Katakuri barely changes, rooftop or...

"Lucci was admiral level" possibly existed before Luffy vs Lucci happened, though I don't recall that take ever being popular. I myself had him possibly at borderline top tier and above or comparable to Zoro back then. Lucci being borderline top tier or in betweener wasn't uncommon back then...

Check list vise? Dude should be at least entry level top tier at this point. To be sure (and narratively), we will know if Zoro can fight a top tier 1v1 and match him. It's purely just portrayal holding him back now

Loda fell off HARD. Egghead destroyed Gorosei aura. Elbaf destroyed Imu's aura. Blackbeard and his goons are auraless L machines since post TS. Well done! All antagonists now are looking like jobbers!!

x784 Fairy Tail was peak! I don't dislike a single arc in that timeline. They were all either ok, good or great. It all went downhill once the Tenrou timeskip happened. Even the anime reflect that. The first half of the series had great animation, art and soundtracks.

Reddit tier take @Loki D. Terror

Blackpilled since Wano lmao. Raid was a disaster. Egghead was dogshit. Rocks flashback was all right, until the actual GV incident, which also was dogshit. Had like 10 years of buildup, to get that execution.... On Zoro, Loda has been cucking Zoro since Wano as well.

Just wait for it to be 1-2 pages of clash, and then some distraction as usual. :peperain:

To their detriment. And then they get laughed at for the wank. Loda hold down our boi unfortunately :pepemotion:

Doubt Loda will allow Zoro to shine that much, I would recommend Zbois to keep expectations low. Since his MC golden boi went to shit, he has to keep marimo down. There was no reason he couldn't let Zoro even momentarily fight Kizaru in Egghead, instead we got stallfest with Lucci, ending with...

Who are you? And @AverageBuggyEnjoyer . I mean, your old names lol

Speculations Joyboy, Ryuma, Davy Jones

I mean, Roger is still an exceptional top tier. But now, he has to leech off prime Whitebeard (equal of this monster) and his subordinates (captain of two top tiers, one of whom got comparisons with Shanks)....cause he himself has nothing. I used to remember how it was Whitebeard leeching off...

Dbz?

DBZ is the godfather of shounen and Toriyama allowed his MC to grow into adult, and all protagonists were adults as well. Loda is just weird with this shit. Wano should've ended with another timeskip, it makes zero sense for Luffy to go from one shot material of base Kaido, to being relative...

The Roger of our imaginations (or at least mine lol) pre TS was a more legendary figure than Rocks lol. Even Rocks didn't live upto what we thought about him lol. Rocks was implied to be a far more chaotic and maniacal figure than what he turned out to be.

Yeah, Oda was very clearly implying that Roger, even as a very young man, knew there was something he had to do and that he was driven by destiny to change the world. The very aura of Roger meeting Rayleigh was everything the CDs feared about the Ds. An uncontrollable, almost prophetic, rebel...

Oda changed Roger's role in the series. Roger went from the over-arching larger than life figure, who had some similarities with Luffy but was still implied to be notably different; to ditto old gen Goofy having mickey mouse rivalries. Pre TS Roger was the undisputed GOAT. And the way even...

Pain >> Orochimaru > Madara >>> everyone else Pain is just GOATed. Naruto would've been top tier if Kishimoto somehow managed to wrap up the series with Pain as the endgame boss.