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This is totally all over the place. Talking about Shanks sinking a few marine ships is totally missing the point, and BTW, for all we know that's a few more than the *gatekeeper* WB, not that that's relevant anyway. Now your also backtracking on SMILES and Germa. SMILES also started before the...

we started talking about WB being the ultimate roadblock. You brought the power balance into the discussion to justify why he was the ultimate roadblock. I tell you that even w/o WB there is Shanks around creating problems, meaning that WB isn't necessarily playing a fundamental role. Then you...

LOL, nothing. It was a shit post while we wait for the chapter.

I updated later about the Gorosei. I'll repeat. The Gorosei (Im) are targeting Luffy and BB, not the middle gen. That says everything.

OK, you are out of arguments. Law said exactly the same thing at the end of Punk Hazard. Forget WB, the middle gen was simply incapable of getting shit done. It is thanks to the WG lead by Teach and Luffy that everything is now exploding. OK, you updated later with Gorosei stuff. Who are the...

Nothing different from what was going on before WB's death. If BM takes in Germa fodder army and Kaido takes in an army of fodder SMILES, the deadlock remains. The WG are breaking the balance, not the other Yonko. Were it for the silver medalist they would still be silver medalist, even with WB...

Imagine some Japs who have been following since chapter 1 :believe:

Yes, I'm arguing that WB was not the ultimate block you are depicting. He's gone and the stalemate is still there.

Folks here talking about their journey when they just marathoned through Dressrosa... Bitches, I have been following weekly since pre skip Sabaody :seriously:

Yes, BM mentioned ALL the obstacles. If the only problem was WB she would have mentioned only him. I.E., nothing new. BM has been increasing her forces through marriages since forever. The failed giant marriage was before WB's death. The same for SMILES. Again, it's the WG that is breaking the...

Big Meme mentioned Kaido and Shanks as well. What you guys are saying is that if you remove WB from the equation the situation would fix itself with the gridlock breaking and somebody among BM, Kaido and Shanks, getting to Raftel. I'm not so sure. We have seen 2 years without WB and nobody...

Now you're the one who is reaching.

If Kaido wants to go to war with Meme he doesn't need to fear WB coming in and crushing him. Shanks is enough.

Answering to both. I'm not saying it was impossible, I'm just saying I'm not convinced yet. I have no problem with Primebeard > Yonko (Oldbeard is another story), but if he's not interested in blocking anyone, his power level doesn't matter... To me a clear example of this would have been WB...

I'm not directly taking about power levels. From what we have seen there's nothing to indicate WB was preventing people from going to Raftel (unless it comes up he had the fourth stone).

It's irrelevant, because for what we have seen WB hasn't done anything to stop other people going to Raftel. For what we know if somebody puts together the 4 stones he can go... WB isn't gonna stop them... Now, if it comes up he was hiding the missing stone (was that the message from Marco?)...

You keep pushing this PK wanker narrative that WB is blocking people, but how is that supposed to work exactly? :sus: WB isn't interested in Raftel, so unless he's hiding the missing Poneglyph he isn't really blocking anyone. Meme and Kaido for now have been a bigger block considering they...

He just wants to get drunk, that's why he's trying to keep the peace. Probably he went to the Gorosei to offer himself as a Warlord to keep the peace. Too bad they got abolished. :suresure:

No Korean summary yet? We should summon Kingdom's translators, we're used to this stuff.

Probably mentioned already, but the bridge under construction is probably the same bridge where Robin was sent to before the TS.