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That is called figurative speech. That is to say, Whitebeard had a short entanglement with Akainu, which was enough to collapse due to his condition being worse even than Marco expected, with Crocodile pointing out how pathetic Whitebeard has become to allow to be stabbed like that by Squardo...

Well, some here (certain admiral fans) claim that an old, deadly sick Whitebeard off meds, who gets heart attack after fighting for 5 minutes, is > Kaido. :josad:

So what stops Hybrid Kaido from engulfing his fist with his magma-like fire in order to put holes into people just like Akainu? Hybrid Kaido could engulf himself in this magma-like fire too, in order to punch holes into people like Akainu did. Like, he can generate an island worth of these...

How does he not have goals? - wanted to change the world - wanted to become Joyboy - said he chose wano out of all places for a specific reason - aimed for the ancient weapons to claim the one piece Kaido is clearly more ambitious in the grand scheme. Big Mom spent her life producing children...

What depth, exactly? A retarded child that consumed her own friends and is now being trolled constantly, almost destroyed her own country due to a food tantrum. What is the depth here?

On the surface he appears as a brutal, unkillable monster, beneath that he appears to be a likeable and very knowledgeable character, who respects his opponents strength and honors fair fights, who has an interesting, yet unexplored past where he resembled Luffy and wanted to become Joyboy, who...

Kaido >> Big Mom character wise

@MarineHQ62 I mean I personally agree that the logia trio's fruit are among the most powerful ones. Even made a thread about the Hie Hie no Mi being one of the best. I think however that Kaido's versatility doesn't diminish the power of the respective aspects. Like Kaido already can melt down...

Well, creating an island sized magma-like fire dragon that can melt down the entire island, is just one aspect of Kaido's DF, which otherwise gives him abnormal physical traits, with Kaido on top of that having powerful Haki, which includes high level of Haoshoku coating.

They are assholes

And Kaido's final attack that spread across the sky like a carpet, was way larger than the fist. Kaido could easily melt down an entire island. The better magu magu no mi..

Nah. He released those flames from his mouth and covered himself with it. Dragon clouds are not burning.

Elaborate? Ain't nobody is going to understand the raws.

Zoro's. That flame kept engulfing Ryuma's body and spreading to the surroundings until Ryuma was burned to ashes. It's probably like Amaterasu. The flame will not extinguish until the target is fully burned down.

Sanjikun said that the DR version of KKG is already PK level in attack power

Well, considering that turning into an island sized magma-like Dragon that covers the entire sky with a flame carpet is just a side power of Kaido, who has monstrous physicals and Haki.

Zoro basically unlocked all the powers pre TS which post TS strawhats are proud of

Plus, one does not substitute the other. Luffy had internal destruction, yet still pointed out the importance of creating Haki flow several times in order not to touch the opponent. Hardening, especially the "super hardening" form also is an important and useful ability. Internal destruction...

Since Kaido is the Dragon here, probably inspired by Kaido.