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Fujishiro

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#63
The manga didn't say anything about winning. Technically, Oden lost to Kaido and his shadow was there.
So what I said?
Technically Kaido was in a bad spot against Oden and was on the losing side because he took that first huge hit in his Dragon form which we know is <<< Human. But I digress.

The point is he feels those people are in the same realm as him and so can fight him.

Curiously enough, he sees primebeard and Roger yet we know he didn’t fight their prime selves in his prime so was he saying that he feels that his prime self right now is around their lvl?
 

Fujishiro

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#65
His CoO sucked, but he sensed who told squard to stab him (PRETTY CLEAN TO ME)

Nerfed?? LOOL completely headcannon the only ones nerfed was the admirals, he came to destroy the whole place, and haki wasn't fleshed out like that I know you're not stupid enough to realize that
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that was so headcannon and bias and so unheard of im actually in shock
He was barely using any Haki, you’re extremely biased right now. Yes admirals were trying not to destroy MF but WB was nerfed, his haki was shit, his reflexes were shit. That is a fact.

You aren’t proving me wrong right now, all you do is say no without providing why.
He didn’t sense shit lmao, him deducing that it was sengoku who probably poisoned squardos mind isn’t COo are you being serious right now?

Prove to me that WBs COo and COA as well as his overall reflexes weren’t nerfed, heck fucking Marco litteraly spells it out by saying that the squardo shit would’ve never happened if he was in correct shape.
 
#66
He was barely using any Haki, you’re extremely biased right now. Yes admirals were trying not to destroy MF but WB was nerfed, his haki was shit, his reflexes were shit. That is a fact.
he wasn't even nerfed, it was just a sickness if primebeard had the same sickness and lost CoO it would be the same exact thing
Prove to me that WBs COo and COA as well as his overall reflexes weren’t nerfed, heck fucking Marco litteraly spells it out by saying that the squardo shit would’ve never happened if he was in correct shape.
the only thing bad was CoO he was legit hitting logias, all you're saying is bias and tryna say he was nerfed when he wasn't , and after all that he was still the strongesst yonkou , oh you're a yanker I see
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Prove to me that WBs COo and COA as well as his overall reflexes weren’t nerfed, heck fucking Marco litteraly spells it out by saying that the squardo shit would’ve never happened if he was in correct shape.
it sucks because he clashed equally with shanks, who you say "defeated kaido" so hmmmm interesting topic without CoO too
 
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