General & Others 13 straw hat theory

#22
Because it never aligns this way ever. Everytime people argue count of certain villains, matchups are never even complete or perfect. Kaido had 9 main subordinates and only 6 of them were actually defeated by Luffy's crew.


Given that we've been at 10 people for years, I highly doubt anyone else is actually joining anymore. Its too late outside of direct allies.
The only way Oda could maybe make 13 SHs work is if Bonney, Yamato, and Loki join at the end of Elbaf, and even then that wouldn’t be great writing imo
 
#23
Because guaranteed the reason why people compare these crew/subordinate counts in the first place is wish fulfillment on fights. It always happens, everytime a count is brought up. Blackbeard's 10 titanic captains. Saint Shanks' 9 main crew members. Sakazuki's 10 Zodiac Marines. Kaido's 9 main Beast Pirates. Now Imu's "main" 13.

And there are just as many theories of Luffy's crew count being 10 or 11 people at many of the same reasons Lol
People have been saying 10 long before Blackbeard’s 10 commanders were a thing. Same way people were saying 13 long before imu’s top 13 were a thing


Don’t understand the point of acting as if either is impossible and never gonna happen when even now Luffy is asking people to join his crew. Luffy getting 10 or even 13 doesn’t mean they all have to get fights each arc and never has
A normal reader would know Jimbo joined the crew in FI.

Agenda driven/dumb readers think it only counts after WCI/Onigashima
Oda didn’t consider him a full on member during fmi. Which is why we had to wait for wci for him to officially join and even then we had to wait again till onigashima for him to return. Oda not even putting him on crew color spreads pre onigashima
 

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#26
Going through old Vivre cards, I read Vivi's card from 2018:




Then the one from the newest Vivre card:


Both seem to emphasize she is a former Strawhat and comes right after the actual strawhat crew in order. So Vivi is rejoining 99%.

Maybe its a play from Oda to fill in number 11 and 12 with the ships until two more members join. With this Luffy ends up with 12 crewmates, just like the disciples and Oda isn't going to miss deifying Luffy.
 
#28
People have been saying 10 long before Blackbeard’s 10 commanders were a thing. Same way people were saying 13 long before imu’s top 13 were a thing


Don’t understand the point of acting as if either is impossible and never gonna happen when even now Luffy is asking people to join his crew. Luffy getting 10 or even 13 doesn’t mean they all have to get fights each arc and never has

Oda didn’t consider him a full on member during fmi. Which is why we had to wait for wci for him to officially join and even then we had to wait again till onigashima for him to return. Oda not even putting him on crew color spreads pre onigashima
Everything you are saying here just adds to my point that its likely not even happening. We are at or near the end of the series. It may take 10 more years, but the adventuring side of this series is nearly done. Oda didnt include Yamato or Carrot post Wano. He hasnt made any attempts to make us think Kuma or Bonney are joining? Is Loki? I doubt it.

So when are you expecting this to even happen lol?
 
#30
Rocks and Imu had 13 main guys



In Wano oden and kaido had 9 along with luffy at the time

As Ive said in another thread already, this doesnt matter

Doflamingo had like 15 and barely a quarter were fought by Strawhats. Kaido had 10 and only 7 were fought by the crew. Hell, Kizaru brought 9 VAs and only him and like 2 VAs were actually fought (and 1 shot) by Strawhats.

There is no feasible way we gain 4 more members (because Rocks and Imu arent included in their 13), not when it took Jinbe a decade to join and Oda refused to include Carrot or Yamato in the last 6-7.

At most I see is one more to match Teach and or maybe Akainu if the codename shit actually pans out, or maybe not.

Idk why people expect there to be 4 more crew members this late in the game lol.
 
#31
Aside from Bart coming back and Yamato coming along, I wouldn't have any interest in additions. I don't even care if there are arc characters after Loki, there are enough threads to tie already.
 
#32
As Ive said in another thread already, this doesnt matter

Doflamingo had like 15 and barely a quarter were fought by Strawhats. Kaido had 10 and only 7 were fought by the crew. Hell, Kizaru brought 9 VAs and only him and like 2 VAs were actually fought (and 1 shot) by Strawhats.

There is no feasible way we gain 4 more members (because Rocks and Imu arent included in their 13), not when it took Jinbe a decade to join and Oda refused to include Carrot or Yamato in the last 6-7.

At most I see is one more to match Teach and or maybe Akainu if the codename shit actually pans out, or maybe not.

Idk why people expect there to be 4 more crew members this late in the game lol.
There were 16 main donquixote and with the fleet the strawhats technically had 16 main mem




Kizaru had 9 vice admirals under him paralleling the same amount as main subordinates under Kaido and Luffy

You’re still focusing on fights and match ups when at no point has anyone mentioned every strawhat needing to fight. That never happens regardless​
 
#33
There were 16 main donquixote and with the fleet the strawhats technically had 16 main mem








Kizaru had 9 vice admirals under him paralleling the same amount as main subordinates under Kaido and Luffy



You’re still focusing on fights and match ups when at no point has anyone mentioned every strawhat needing to fight. That never happens regardless

We are going in circles.
Your point about the Fleet is literally the point Im making. And no, Monet and Vergo died the arc before, so we are just blatantly Cherry picking counts that happen to match up here, especially when there were several other allies outside of fleet members that existed in Dressrosa

Luffy isnt gaining 4 new crew members lol, that idea died when he stopped gaining anyone new in the last 10 years.
 
#34
We are going in circles.
Your point about the Fleet is literally the point Im making. And no, Monet and Vergo died the arc before, so we are just blatantly Cherry picking counts that happen to match up here, especially when there were several other allies outside of fleet members that existed in Dressrosa

Luffy isnt gaining 4 new crew members lol, that idea died when he stopped gaining anyone new in the last 10 years.
Whether it's with or without Luffy, the 13 is happening.. They will probably all join at the same time at the end of Elbaph or whenever Yamato faces Knight of God Maffey..
 
#39
You're going against repeated solid evidence..
Like what that isnt baseless counting comparisons?:sanmoji:
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-13 cats with Nekomamushi..
-13 crewmates with Rocks..
- Imu and his 13 contract servants..
- Doflamingo and his 13 subordinates in Dressrosa..
My point withstanding lol

I could literally yap about Blackbeard having 11 members, Akainu having 11 Admiral codenames sans Kuzan, Shanks having 11 when you include Rockstar lol, but I wont, because these patterns never matter or work
 
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