Given that Oden died as a direct result of facing Kaido, having been defeated, caught, and subsequently executed, while the others didn’t die after facing Kaido (leaving any potential fights between them inconclusive until further update), it is absolutely 10/10 logic to assume that Oden wasn’t one of Kaido’s defeats. But good job giving yourself a self-defeating argument.
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Queen to Hyou " you impressed kaido" we know Kaido has been impressed by people he fought directly only so far : luffy willpower and Kidd etc...
Jack has never met Ashura until lately.
Ashura Kawa Denjiro fought Kaido...
Oden fought Kaido.
Nowhere it is implied king/queen fought Oden or Oden top 3 or even Hyou.
The top 5 wano men have been fought by Kaido himself so far from what said and shown.
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Yeah... Like how WB wankers are
I'm not even shaken
Oda already using WB as Oden hypetool next is Prime Roger as hypetool.
So Oden 20 years younger version of Kaido being pushed past midd diff isn't a problem.
WB and roger fans should enjoy their fav being hypetools
Jack has never met Ashura until lately.
Ashura Kawa Denjiro fought Kaido...
Oden fought Kaido.
Nowhere it is implied king/queen fought Oden or Oden top 3 or even Hyou.
The top 5 wano men have been fought by Kaido himself so far from what said and shown.
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Whether Oden defeated him or not, but Oda definitely has the Kaido fans shaking in their boots
I'm not even shaken
Oda already using WB as Oden hypetool next is Prime Roger as hypetool.
So Oden 20 years younger version of Kaido being pushed past midd diff isn't a problem.
WB and roger fans should enjoy their fav being hypetools
Because we know all details of what exactly happened right? And its also not possible they fought multiple times, right?
yeah, definitely 10/10 logic
yeah, definitely 10/10 logic
10/10 logic indeed.
i still dont see anything conclusive on none of them fighting any calamity.
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No, thats not what we need to know, and that doesnt tell us that oden never defeated kaido.
Your argument is based on assumptions and therefore not a logical conclusion.
And i didnt say its logical they fought multiple times. I was questioning whether it is possible. And since we dont conclusively know (as we know pretty little about it so far) we cant rule other possibilities out.
So your line of reasoning that kaido didnt suffer defeat to oden because oden is dead and kaido isnt is pretty anti-logical even. Not to mention there being the hint orochi did something dirty to oden when kinnemon told the SHP stories of oden.
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No, thats not what we need to know, and that doesnt tell us that oden never defeated kaido.
Your argument is based on assumptions and therefore not a logical conclusion.
And i didnt say its logical they fought multiple times. I was questioning whether it is possible. And since we dont conclusively know (as we know pretty little about it so far) we cant rule other possibilities out.
So your line of reasoning that kaido didnt suffer defeat to oden because oden is dead and kaido isnt is pretty anti-logical even. Not to mention there being the hint orochi did something dirty to oden when kinnemon told the SHP stories of oden.
Yes, it is and yes, it does.
Did you think about how ridiculous that sounded before you posted it? It what world is a conclusion automatically considered illogical because it’s based on an assumption?
I didn’t say you did, I simply said it was illogical to assume that they fought multiple times because of Kaido’s status as a threat (Oden sailed with Roger and Whitebeard, and would have been familiar with the happenings of the world by the time he got back to Wano). It would have been stupid of him to let Kaido live.
Kaido and Orochi plotting against Oden does not repudiate the idea that Kaido beat Oden.
Lol.
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any panel stating kaido beat oden
Yeah, the one saying they fought, the one saying Oden is dead, and any of the ones showing kaido is alive.
Wait, people think he’s alive?
Did you think about how ridiculous that sounded before you posted it? It what world is a conclusion automatically considered illogical because it’s based on an assumption?
I didn’t say you did, I simply said it was illogical to assume that they fought multiple times because of Kaido’s status as a threat (Oden sailed with Roger and Whitebeard, and would have been familiar with the happenings of the world by the time he got back to Wano). It would have been stupid of him to let Kaido live.
Kaido and Orochi plotting against Oden does not repudiate the idea that Kaido beat Oden.
Lol.
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any panel stating kaido beat oden
Wait, people think he’s alive?
No
You are right, my phrasing was pretty stupid there. Your assumption is not a logical one though.
you werent phrasing it like an idea but as a fact though.
And oden dying does not repudiate the idea that oden beat kaido.
And i didnt assume it either. I was just considering the possibility, which you apparently dismissed for whatever reason
So headcanon and not an actual panel. Nice
You are right, my phrasing was pretty stupid there. Your assumption is not a logical one though.
you werent phrasing it like an idea but as a fact though.
And oden dying does not repudiate the idea that oden beat kaido.
And i didnt assume it either. I was just considering the possibility, which you apparently dismissed for whatever reason
So headcanon and not an actual panel. Nice
I asked 
I think he did lol But im also not gonna go ape shit to power scale two dudes ive barely seen fight based off a battle we havent seen that took place well before one of their Primes and just before the others death lol.
Like if Oden is one of Kaido 7 defeats how does that take a way from Kaido? He's still WSC a Yonko and currently One Shotting Luffy in Boundman lol.
It would just mean he took a loss vs a Legendary Pirate before hitting his prime. Shit happens in OP all the time lol. Shanks out here losing arms to sea kings and taking permanent scars from randos in WB crew yet hes top 5 rn
Like if Oden is one of Kaido 7 defeats how does that take a way from Kaido? He's still WSC a Yonko and currently One Shotting Luffy in Boundman lol.
It would just mean he took a loss vs a Legendary Pirate before hitting his prime. Shit happens in OP all the time lol. Shanks out here losing arms to sea kings and taking permanent scars from randos in WB crew yet hes top 5 rn
