Questions & Mysteries 2 arms Shanks (during his duels with Mihawk) is as strong as Yonko Shanks ? (databook statement)
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People are bitching about mihawk getting stalled by vista,
If he kill vista right there, WB will be wrecking havoc in marineford
Also mihawk job is not to kill enemy but to support WG and stall wb pirates from interrupting ace execution
Just like luffy vs monet and luffy vs ulti, if you really believe that monet and ulti can beat / on par with luffy, i cant even take you seriously
If he kill vista right there, WB will be wrecking havoc in marineford
Also mihawk job is not to kill enemy but to support WG and stall wb pirates from interrupting ace execution
Just like luffy vs monet and luffy vs ulti, if you really believe that monet and ulti can beat / on par with luffy, i cant even take you seriously
Shanks losing his arm was decided at the beginning of the One Piece story. Oda decided to have Shanks sacrifice his dominant arm (and thus hamper his combat ability) for Luffy. Shanks bet his arm on the next generation. Shanks told Whitebeard as much.
If Shanks is exactly as strong as he was before losing his dominant arm, then his sacrifice was meaningless and not really a sacrifice at all.
I don't think this was ever said. I would appreciate a source otherwise.
If Shanks is exactly as strong as he was before losing his dominant arm, then his sacrifice was meaningless and not really a sacrifice at all.
I don't think this was ever said. I would appreciate a source otherwise.
His ''sacrifice'' is not quantifiable is what i mean, Oda can tell us that his sacrifice made him a has been (Mihawk's words) to justify them not fighting, but Oda wouldve had another reason not to have Mihawk and Shanks fight anyways if the didnt have him lose his arm.
So him losing his arm is just symbolic, and Oda's view on his strength and place in his story didn't change.
Mihawk is WSS so he doesn't wanna fight Shanks whom he views as weaker than him, or not pushing him to the very very extreme. Which is what he wants from Zoro.
So him losing his arm is just symbolic, and Oda's view on his strength and place in his story didn't change.
Mihawk is WSS so he doesn't wanna fight Shanks whom he views as weaker than him, or not pushing him to the very very extreme. Which is what he wants from Zoro.
I think the problem is a lot of people use poor translations.
I asked someone who can read the raws and he said that Mihawk called Shanks a one-armed bastard, not a has-been. He also said a final decision won't be reached. He is saying that because Shanks has one arm, they won't be able to get a final decision on who is the better swordsman, because two arms seems to be a requisite for swordsmanship.
I asked someone who can read the raws and he said that Mihawk called Shanks a one-armed bastard, not a has-been. He also said a final decision won't be reached. He is saying that because Shanks has one arm, they won't be able to get a final decision on who is the better swordsman, because two arms seems to be a requisite for swordsmanship.
I don't think this works TBH.
Shanks losing his arm underpins Mihawk and Shanks' relationship. Oda probably decided on Mihawk's character and rivalry with Shanks after he lost his arm.
Shanks may not even have been a swordsman in Oda's conception before he lost his arm.
You can't say Oda would have had another reason for Mihawk and Shanks to not fight if Shanks hadn't lost his arm. We don't even know if Oda had conceived Shanks as Mihawk's rival before he decided on Shanks losing his arm.
I disagree that Shanks losing his arm is cosmetic or otherwise not meaningful. When Shanks met Whitebeard, Oda placed emphasis on Shanks having sacrificed his arm for the next generation.
Mihawk further regards Shanks as a one armed has been. Mihawk awaits the swordsman who will surpass Shanks.
There is zero indication in the story that losing his arm did not hamper Shanks potential, and several events and statements to the contrary.
Shanks losing his arm underpins Mihawk and Shanks' relationship. Oda probably decided on Mihawk's character and rivalry with Shanks after he lost his arm.
Shanks may not even have been a swordsman in Oda's conception before he lost his arm.
You can't say Oda would have had another reason for Mihawk and Shanks to not fight if Shanks hadn't lost his arm. We don't even know if Oda had conceived Shanks as Mihawk's rival before he decided on Shanks losing his arm.
I disagree that Shanks losing his arm is cosmetic or otherwise not meaningful. When Shanks met Whitebeard, Oda placed emphasis on Shanks having sacrificed his arm for the next generation.
Mihawk further regards Shanks as a one armed has been. Mihawk awaits the swordsman who will surpass Shanks.
There is zero indication in the story that losing his arm did not hamper Shanks potential, and several events and statements to the contrary.
Thanks, I'd like to have @Aknolagon s thought too.
