Powers & Abilities 2 different hype

[Jo_Ndule]

"she needed CoA to block G4 so she would be damaged by it"
"Capone said she would died from the fall"

Arguments used to de hype BM durability yet this woman always come out clean no real damage after any attack.

Linlin's hype is that she can't be damaged except by herself when she's emotionally unstable.
While Kaido's hype is that he can't be killed by anything and anyone, not even by himself!

We are yet to see BM get damaged/bleed. Her durability even applied to her homies who can't be damaged except when Prometheus is small, that's when water works and if you have soul soul fruit.

If Linlin didn't block, she would probably be sent back like how defenceless Kaido was. The only reasons Kaido never blocked or countered back g4 attacks was because he was drunk, same Kaido always counterattack as we saw vs Oden and BM.

And if you really think Linlin would died from that fall, you gotta drop OP, A grandpa like Streusen with weak durability survived and went to coma but imagine believe a Natural freak would die or be damaged. The very same woman who got zapped twice, drowned and didn't die.

Linlin can hurt herself when unstable, Kaido can't kill himself even when he's unstable.
Kaido's scales can be cut and scarred , his skin can be breached via AdCoA, while Linlin's skin can't be cut nor scarred but I suppose adcoa can breach her tough skin and damaged her from inside out.

The Unkillable Drunk Man and the Undamaged Foodie Woman.

If you ask me if Linlin would tank Oden's slash better? Yes she would. She wouldn't even be scarred! But if she was unstable, she would be damaged or even die.

*a thread from NF inspired me to make this thread and clarify the 2 different hype.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I would really like some clarification in the canon about who has tougher skin between Kaido and Linlin. The former seems to take the cake based on his DF and the fact that he may not be strictly human, but after WCI, it seems like the latter has similar if not better durability. Oden clearly isn’t the only one who’s managed to scar Kaido based on his appearance, but Linlin doesn’t seem to have any lingering wounds, which certainly couldn’t be from lack of trying.

 

[Reborn]

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If you ask me if Linlin would tank Oden's slash better? Yes she would. She wouldn't even be scarred! .

If Kaido can get a permanent scar then BM taking Oden slash without any issue is just a headcannon

 

[Dragomir]

I would really like some clarification in the canon about who has tougher skin between Kaido and Linlin. The former seems to take the cake based on his DF and the fact that he may not be strictly human, but after WCI, it seems like the latter has similar if not better durability. Oden clearly isn’t the only one who’s managed to scar Kaido based on his appearance, but Linlin doesn’t seem to have any lingering wounds, which certainly couldn’t be from lack of trying.

Nah, fam. Kaido definitely has better durability. He fell off from Sky Island and completely survived without a scratch–and Sky Island is 10k meters in the air btw–while Big Mom was flat out stated to have died from falling off Whole Cake Chateau. And while I don't know its height, it's definitely not 10,000 meters. Kaido's durability has a lot more hype and the feats to back it up than Linlin does.

Also, Kaido has only one scar which was from Oden's attack.

Spoiler

There's no other scar on his body to suggest that other characters managed to wound him. And that scar isn't meant to downplay his durability but instead hype up the guy who caused it, Oden.

 

[Formerly Seth]

"she needed CoA to block G4 so she would be damaged by it"

That's me!

I'm popular.


edit.

I said she used CoA because she wasn't sure if she can block G4 attack unless you are not talking about me

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Nah, fam. Kaido definitely has better durability. He fell off from Sky Island and completely survived without a scratch–and Sky Island is 10k meters in the air btw–while Big Mom was flat out stated to have died from falling off Whole Cake Chateau. And while I don't know its height, it's definitely not 10,000 meters. Kaido's durability has a lot more hype and the feats to back it up than Linlin does.

Also, Kaido has only one scar which was from Oden's attack.

Spoiler

There's no other scar on his body to suggest that other characters managed to wound him. And that scar isn't meant to downplay his durability but instead hype up the guy who caused it, Oden.

Aight, my bad...don’t know why I pictured Kaido with more scars, guess I’m not paying enough attention. Still, the durability of their respective hides has to be comparable at the very least; why else would Bege have to wait until she was mentally unsound to pull out the KX Launchers? What’s the reason behind her own ability to not be harmed by blades or weapons most of the time?

 

[Dragomir]

Aight, my bad...don’t know why I pictured Kaido with more scars, guess I’m not paying enough attention. Still, the durability of their respective hides has to be comparable at the very least; why else would Bege have to wait until she was mentally unsound to pull out the KX Launchers? What’s the reason behind her own ability to not be harmed by blades or weapons most of the time?

True. I think both of them have the best durability out of any character but I'll be leaning on Kaido for the moment to be #1 based on the aforementioned statements above.

 

[NeutralWatcher]

Somethimes durability is not consistent. His name is Gedatsu. This guy fell from Sky Island before Kaido.

And he lost to Chopper.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

Nah, fam. Kaido definitely has better durability. He fell off from Sky Island and completely survived without a scratch–and Sky Island is 10k meters in the air btw–while Big Mom was flat out stated to have died from falling off Whole Cake Chateau. And while I don't know its height, it's definitely not 10,000 meters. Kaido's durability has a lot more hype and the feats to back it up than Linlin does.

Also, Kaido has only one scar which was from Oden's attack.

Spoiler

There's no other scar on his body to suggest that other characters managed to wound him. And that scar isn't meant to downplay his durability but instead hype up the guy who caused it, Oden.

The person that stated she would die was wrong, BM wouldn't die

What combat feats does Kaido has...that BM wouldn't survive?
BM would die yes but her body won't suffer a scar or damage.

You are still comparing 2 different hype, you are talking about dying while BM body can't even suffer a damage

She has battled way longer than Kaido, even as child, she wasn't killed nor damaged by giants.

Can BM die? Yes she can die but you can die without having your skin damaged.

Blades and swords don't work on both? Check... Enma worked on Kaido.
Attacks can't damage their skins? BM got zapped even in weakened state and still came out clean no real damage.

 

[Dragomir]

The person that stated she would die was wrong, BM wouldn't die

Evidence?

What combat feats does Kaido has...that BM wouldn't survive?

Huh?

BM would die yes but her body won't suffer a scar or damage.

1. How is she going to die but not suffer damage? That makes no freaking sense.
2. You want to tell me that death is preferable to having a scar?? In what shape or form is that a better durability feat?

You are still comparing 2 different hype, you are talking about dying while BM body can't even suffer a damage

In order for Linlin to die from that fall, she needs to suffer the damage to push her limit for her body to break. You won't die without suffering any damage unless it's by natural causes or a disease which wasn't the case on Whole Cake Chateau.

She has battled way longer than Kaido, even as chiper, she wasn't killed nor damage dby giants.

Did you somehow see every single battle Big Mom has ever fought to know that she never suffered any damage?

Can BM die? Yes she can die but you can die without having your skin damaged.

Ok?

Blades and swords don't work on both? Check... Enma worked on Kaido.
Attacks can't damage their skins? BM got zapped even in weakened state and still came out clean no real damage.

Zapped by Zeus? Yeah, a good feat for her. It was impressive. Still has worse durability than Kaido. We have a clear comparison of durability between them. Kaido falls from a heigh of 10,000 meters. Survives with no scratch. Big Mom is stated to die from falling at a lesser height. Kaido has superior durability. Oden scarring him doesn't change that. It just means that Oden's AP is that good enough to harm someone like Kaido. If Oden attacked Linlin, it's safe to say the same thing would happen.

 

[RyumaZoro]

Nah fam kaido haS the most hyped durability By far even bm indirectly said it by saying to Luffy you can’t kill that thing ,for me she was admitting that kaido is superior in that department

 

[Light D Lamperouge]

Linlin, on her own accord, used hardening, used her immense body weight, leaned forward thus putting the said body weight in use to produce a counter force to the force of WCI Luffy's punch and her arm rattled. Linlin used her own physical force and a layer of haki and leaned forward in a more advantageous position to have her arm rattle from a punch from WCI Luffy, that is pure physical force and not lethal. Occam's razor denotes she used COA and counterforce since she needed to use them.

Spoiler

Kaido taking a free fall from 10k meters and takes an onslaught of G4 attacks, without any protection, and ends up being disappointed

Spoiler

vs

Linlin falling from a castle and leaning forward putting her body-weight in use, uses hardening, counter force, and it still makes her arm rattle after only one G4 attack

Spoiler

Brulee, the eight daughter and the nineteenth child of Linlin, showed concern for Linlin as well.

Spoiler

She knows of Linlin's durability, and has known it her entire life, and was worried when the castle crumbled, and was explicitly expressing her concern for Linlin.

Moreover, Zeus, a homie infused with Linlin's soul, rushed over to save Linlin from the fall, and alleviate the impact of the fall.

Spoiler

Zeus is bewildered and is expressing his concern for Linlin as well.
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In the end, the difference is quite noticeable. Kaido takes the cake.​

 

[NeutralWatcher]

Having better durability doesn't mean you're better top tier. There are some high tiers who have better durability due to his/her durability.

For example:

WB got injured from Squadro's stab but Jozu with his df tanked Mihawk's slash fine and Marco survived Kizaru's Yasakani no Magatama.

Roger himself died due to stabs to the chest but he's still considered the strongest character in One Piece alongside WB and Garp.

 

[Master OF Haki]

Oden clearly isn’t the only one who’s managed to scar Kaido based on his appearance

I don't know man, zero hints that anybody managed to scar Kaido with exception of Oden (not damage but scar) Kaido also doesn't have any other scars with exception of the one that he got from Oden and with the hype of Enma (as the only blade that scarred Kaido) I think it's quite clear that no one, literally no one was able to scar Kaido with exception of Oden.

 

[Dragomir]

Having better durability doesn't mean you're better top tier. There are some high tiers who have better durability due to his/her durability.

For example:

WB got injured from Squadro's stab but Jozu with his df tanked Mihawk's slash fine and Marco survived Kizaru's Yasakani no Magatama.

Roger himself died due to stabs to the chest but he's still considered the strongest character in One Piece alongside WB and Garp.

Ok? Nobody said anything about Kaido being a stronger top tier cause of his durability. I mean, he is stronger no doubt, but that's not the point.

 

[NeutralWatcher]

Ok? Nobody said anything about Kaido being a stronger top tier cause of his durability. I mean, he is stronger no doubt, but that's not the point.

Nah BM=Kaido. Kaido has better durability but BM has other attribute that makes her equal to Kaido.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I don't know man, zero hints that anybody managed to scar Kaido with exception of Oden (not damage but scar) Kaido also doesn't have any other scars with exception of the one that he got from Oden and with the hype of Enma (as the only blade that scarred Kaido) I think it's quite clear that no one, literally no one was able to scar Kaido with exception of Oden.

Yeah, Drago already set me straight on this. Just mixed it up in my head, honest mistake.

 

[Finalbeta]

Having better durability doesn't mean you're better top tier. There are some high tiers who have better durability due to his/her durability.

For example:

WB got injured from Squadro's stab but Jozu with his df tanked Mihawk's slash fine and Marco survived Kizaru's Yasakani no Magatama.

Roger himself died due to stabs to the chest but he's still considered the strongest character in One Piece alongside WB and Garp.

Well WB with his haki and no sickness was probably overall more durable than Jozu

In fact penetration CoA can break through Jozu's diamond defence pretty easily

So it depends basically

 

[Greenbeard]

Kaido's durability seems to be from his DF.... Dragon's scales are incredibly tough to slash.....
While Big Mom's durability comes due to a different thing....
(My head canon):
In my opinion, Big Mom's durability is due to her naturally tough skin and her innate ability to use Barrier CoA continuously.....
We have already seen how some characters are born with incredible CoO( Like Aisa, Otohime, Sharley)....Likewise I think Big Mom has a freakish CoA....( She can use her Barrier CoA continuously).... Her getting injured quite easily when she is emotionally unstable kinda supports my head canon....

P.S: I don't think BM would have died from falling down from the top of the chateau.....

 

[comrade]

Kaido is much more durable. Even Big Mom herself says, you cannot beat that thing.