Questions & Mysteries 2nd Zoro flashback

ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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Albino 👑 said:
Like when he sees hiyori again, king fight, orochi etc.
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None of these have anything significant to Zoro's past.

In fact no one in this arc is significant to Zoro. So there won't be a flashback at all
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Jew D. Boy said:
If this arc is to Zoro as WCI was to Sanji, we should see everything about his childhood.
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It's not and it won't
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HA001 said:
Hes the only one without an offical intro box. We are missing somethi
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Ie there anything about Zoro's current character that you somehow think is unexplained. Does he have a flaw that can only be explained and overcame by something in his past we don't know?

Seems like you're making things up
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Finalbeta said:
Connections with Zoro's clan which could still be obscure to us.

It is really up for interpretation here.
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The roronoa clan?
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bennbeckman said:
give Zoro his now
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Why?
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LolonoisZolo said:
gets one, it would be in a very tragic moment; what's sure is that Oda is going to blow our minds
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Really? Yet Zoro doesn't care?

I thought flashbacks matter when the person cares.

Like you care about Law's flashback because in real time he's entirely motivated by it.

Zoro doesn't care about anything in his past so why would he care and why would the audience care?
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Fujishiro said:
dude put his heritage and everything in a fucking magazine
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He put Kuina's heritage in an sbs. Zoro isn't kuina's cousin so none of that is related to Zoro.

In fact nothing in Wano is related to Zoro. No one cares about him and he doesn't care about anyone. The closest he's come to caring about Wano is Shusui and Yasu. And none of these are related to his past.

So there's nothing there
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bennbeckman said:
also gets called by his first name only
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That's a lie
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bennbeckman said:
Could zoro be a shimosuki
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He's not
 
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Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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ImmaIvanoM said:
None of these have anything significant to Zoro's past.

In fact no one in this arc is significant to Zoro. So there won't be a flashback at all
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It's not and it won't
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Ie there anything about Zoro's current character that you somehow think is unexplained. Does he have a flaw that can only be explained and overcame by something in his past we don't know?

Seems like you're making things up
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The roronoa clan?
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Why?
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Really? Yet Zoro doesn't care?

I thought flashbacks matter when the person cares.

Like you care about Law's flashback because in real time he's entirely motivated by it.

Zoro doesn't care about anything in his past so why would he care and why would the audience care?
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He put Kuina's heritage in an sbs. Zoro isn't kuina's cousin so none of that is related to Zoro.

In fact nothing in Wano is related to Zoro. No one cares about him and he doesn't care about anyone. The closest he's come to caring about Wano is Shusui and Yasu. And none of these are related to his past.

So there's nothing there
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That's a lie
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He's not
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Why you so mad at the idea of learning more about zoro lol
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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Cyrus the Cactus said:
We know more about fucking Kyros than Zoro :catcry:
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That's a lie.

Backstory =/= characterisation

Zoro is a main character. By default we know more about him just from that. He has more character than Kyros by virtue of being in the story longer. He has more character than Law who has a longer backstory too. He also has more character than Robin.

There's no way it's possible for a side character to outshine someone with over 10 times more panel time unless that person literally does nothing in all those panels
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Fujishiro said:
I hope he isnt related to ryuma, would love it if zoro was just a random badass born from nobody parents. Enough with this lineage bs.
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This is what of a is doing. Zoro's story had never been about where he came from. It's about where he's going.

Things like him inheriting other people's swords shows that. All the five famed swords Zoro has inherited are from prominent families that Zoro is NOT a part of. That's his thing. He's a random guy who takes famous swords because he's that good. Not because he's got a blood right to them
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Cyrus the Cactus said:
He knew who Ryuma was without being told in TB
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He did not
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Garp the Fist said:
Kuina and the three other kids from the dojo being told a story by the old Shimotsuki swordsmith about Ryuma, the World's Greatest Swordsman. K
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Where is this idea that Zoro knew about ryuma come from?
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Momoheechulkabe9000 said:
There must be a reason why Oda never formally introduced him and is teasing us.
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What about Kurokoma? That other character oda teased multiple times and never formally introduced
 
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Albino 👑

Albino 👑

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ImmaIvanoM said:
That's a lie.

Backstory =/= characterisation

Zoro is a main character. By default we know more about him just from that. He has more character than Kyros by virtue of being in the story longer. He has more character than Law who has a longer backstory too. He also has more character than Robin.

There's no way it's possible for a side character to outshine someone with over 10 times more panel time unless that person literally does nothing in all those panels
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This is what of a is doing. Zoro's story had never been about where he came from. It's about where he's going.

Things like him inheriting other people's swords shows that. All the five famed swords Zoro has inherited are from prominent families that Zoro is NOT a part of. That's his thing. He's a random guy who takes famous swords because he's that good. Not because he's got a blood right to them
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He did not
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Where is this idea that Zoro knew about ryuma come from?
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Also you do realize if you double post the tags dont work
Only the first person your quoting is notified

Why you even quoting everyone lol
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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Albino 👑 said:
Why you so mad at the idea of learning more about zoro lol
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I'm not mad about anything.

If OJ was open you would see my posts during Reverie. I was making ALL the Zoro's past posts all day everyday.

Then wano started and it became clear this wasn't what Oda was going for and he literally says it himself MULTIPLE TIMES that this Zoro wano connection is SO INSIGNIFICANT that he might not even ads it to the manga.

But then he managed to add it to the manga. In about 2-3 pages worth of panels. He set up Zoro having a connection to Wano through Momo and sunacchi and completed it with Explaining Wado and Enma are sister swords.

That's it. That's and the full story of Zoro's connection to Wano told over 80 chapters and yes, it's as insignificant as Oda said. Zoro literally didn't even register it while being told about it.

Now that that's over, some people literally missed that that's all there is and are stuck in their dumb head Canon that there's more to this
 
bennbeckman

bennbeckman

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ImmaIvanoM said:
None of these have anything significant to Zoro's past.

In fact no one in this arc is significant to Zoro. So there won't be a flashback at all
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It's not and it won't
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Ie there anything about Zoro's current character that you somehow think is unexplained. Does he have a flaw that can only be explained and overcame by something in his past we don't know?

Seems like you're making things up
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The roronoa clan?
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Why?
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Really? Yet Zoro doesn't care?

I thought flashbacks matter when the person cares.

Like you care about Law's flashback because in real time he's entirely motivated by it.

Zoro doesn't care about anything in his past so why would he care and why would the audience care?
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He put Kuina's heritage in an sbs. Zoro isn't kuina's cousin so none of that is related to Zoro.

In fact nothing in Wano is related to Zoro. No one cares about him and he doesn't care about anyone. The closest he's come to caring about Wano is Shusui and Yasu. And none of these are related to his past.

So there's nothing there
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That's a lie
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He's not
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Why? Because we've wasted enough time on everyone elses flashbacks, some proving to be pointless and a waste of time.

Yes a lot of people do call Zoro "Roronoa", most people with the exception of Robin have not gotten called by their first name, again, everyone has had their arc, not zoro

Pica... called him roronoa
apoo said Roronoa and not pirate hunter... just a few examples
Its more of a small detail that has a small chance of pertaining to the story
 
ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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HA001 said:
I havent made anything up. Its a fact hes not got an official intro box iirc the only sh not to have one.
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And it's a fact that that doesn't indicate anything

For anything thing to be a pattern it has to appear more than once.

We've seen FOUR strawhats get introduced with a quick Backstory and then get introduced an extended Backstory later. That's what you think is going to happen with Zoro. Yet all these strawhats also had those intro boxes.

So what now? Is the lack of intro boxes supposed to indicate there's more to know? Why? How come Luffy Robin Sanji and Nami all had intro boxes YET THERE WAS MORE TO LEARN?

See the problem with your point here. You found an anomaly and ascribed meaning to it that isnt warranted. We have no indicator that Oda withholding the intro box means anything outside of maybe he just fucking forgot and hadn't developed that as standard of his story yet.

The point you are trying to say Zoro shares with Luffy Nami Sanji and Robin is being indicated by something he doesn't share with them. They all had their intro boxes and so Zoro not having one is unconnected to the point.


If you want to make an actual point that would matter then use the story itself. The 80 chapters of Wano with Zoro not giving a shit about this stuff is a good indicator for ME that none of this matters
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bennbeckman said:
Why? Because we've wasted enough time on everyone elses flashbacks, some proving to be pointless and a waste of time.

Yes a lot of people do call Zoro "Roronoa", most people with the exception of Robin have not gotten called by their first name, again, everyone has had their arc, not zoro

Pica... called him roronoa
apoo said Roronoa and not pirate hunter... just a few examples
Its more of a small detail that has a small chance of pertaining to the story
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Why? Because 80 chapters have passed and nothing has come of it. You must be misunderstanding my intentions here. I'm not actively pushing some agenda here. I'm just reading the story. And I've read 80 chapters of nothing saying Zoro's past matters to him or anyone else or this entire arc story. And even Oda says Zoro's ties to the arc are so insignificant that he might no put them in the story. That's Zoro, every other character, the story itself and Osa So what do you want me to do?

Like what reason is there for me to say that Anyone, Me, Oda or zoro the character should give a shit?

I mean isn't 80 chapters good enough for set up? Unless you think we're basically not even half way into the arc or something and characters are yet to even see Pivotal plot points of their own character arcs yet. Like are you waiting for like Franky to find out his parents are part of the beast pirates too and then Oda is gonna make that a big plot point?

Thats the level of randomness a Zoro Backstory would have right now. It's on the level of Frank finding his parents in the beat pirates and we get a flashback of how they kicked him off the ship. But no. It's even lamer. A zoro Backstory is even lamer than a Franky finding his parents. You know why?

Because FRANKY WOULD FUCKIN CARE. Frank would react to finding his fucking parents while Zoro wouldn't give a damn about hearing his long lost dead father is from Wano and that's it. Like seriously im not trolling.

Everyone knows that Zoro wouldn't care yet they still want Oda to make a story about something they know no character would care about. It's so weird
 
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Desolate Smaug

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Sanji got a backstory that connected him with one of the mythical forces of the one piece world now every Zolo fan wants one for mr bushido :myman:.
If Oda had any plans to link Zoro with Wano he would have done so already in the last 80 chapters. Not every one has to be born from a legendary family. That's where inherited will comes in.

Law has been leading a huge faction of the samurai, something Zoro was supposed to do lol.
 
ImmaIvanoM

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Desolate Smaug said:
every Zolo fan wants one for mr bushido
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Incorrect.

A lot of people don't want any of this. It's just the usual shit of one side being louder than the other
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Desolate Smaug said:
Law has been leading a huge faction of the samurai, something Zoro was supposed to do lol
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Right. All Zoro has to do is Beat king and cut kaido. Everyone else can lead everyone else
 
Monet

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bennbeckman said:
Why? Because we've wasted enough time on everyone elses flashbacks, some proving to be pointless and a waste of time.

Yes a lot of people do call Zoro "Roronoa", most people with the exception of Robin have not gotten called by their first name, again, everyone has had their arc, not zoro

Pica... called him roronoa
apoo said Roronoa and not pirate hunter... just a few examples
Its more of a small detail that has a small chance of pertaining to the story
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its not only in wano
through the series many people call him roronoa
so it means something , or not just a name he picked .

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Momoheechulkabe9000 said:
His master resisted Orochi and died like a true warrior. There must be a reason why Oda never formally introduced him and is teasing us.



Onimaru protected the gaves for twenty years and stocked up on weapons for the alliance. I can't see him not getting some payback.
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yep
there has to be a connection to this guy

but what i find strange

is that zoro lived in a Shimotsuki village , where Shimotsuki family live there
learned in Shimotsuki doju , under Shimotsuki master , become friend to a Shimotsuki member

but his name is Roronoa ?!
if his real name was Shimotsuki then no benefit at all from hiding it !!

also all this connection with Shimotsuki members yasu , toku and onimaru

i dnot know , it seems too clear that zoro is Shimotsuki !
but is not right cus no benefit for oda to keep it secret until now unless if there is a twist ?!

oda like surprise the readers

went all this with yamto being a son then she is girl .
 
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ImmaIvanoM

ImmaIvanoM

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Desolate Smaug said:
Lol you are the only one who don't want it. The rest of the gang want that super duper familial connection.
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The active members of WG are not the same as everyone else in the community

For example most of the YouTube community is either ambivalent or just doesn't just against it.
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Monet said:
through the series many people call him roronoa
so it means something , or not just a name he picked .
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Or Oda likes the name so he likes making characters say it
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Albino 👑 said:
Its just something that would add even more to the lore of his character
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And it affects his actual character and the story how?
 
bennbeckman

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ImmaIvanoM said:
And it's a fact that that doesn't indicate anything

For anything thing to be a pattern it has to appear more than once.

We've seen FOUR strawhats get introduced with a quick Backstory and then get introduced an extended Backstory later. That's what you think is going to happen with Zoro. Yet all these strawhats also had those intro boxes.

So what now? Is the lack of intro boxes supposed to indicate there's more to know? Why? How come Luffy Robin Sanji and Nami all had intro boxes YET THERE WAS MORE TO LEARN?

See the problem with your point here. You found an anomaly and ascribed meaning to it that isnt warranted. We have no indicator that Oda withholding the intro box means anything outside of maybe he just fucking forgot and hadn't developed that as standard of his story yet.

The point you are trying to say Zoro shares with Luffy Nami Sanji and Robin is being indicated by something he doesn't share with them. They all had their intro boxes and so Zoro not having one is unconnected to the point.


If you want to make an actual point that would matter then use the story itself. The 80 chapters of Wano with Zoro not giving a shit about this stuff is a good indicator for ME that none of this matters
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Why? Because 80 chapters have passed and nothing has come of it. You must be misunderstanding my intentions here. I'm not actively pushing some agenda here. I'm just reading the story. And I've read 80 chapters of nothing saying Zoro's past matters to him or anyone else or this entire arc story. And even Oda says Zoro's ties to the arc are so insignificant that he might no put them in the story. That's Zoro, every other character, the story itself and Osa So what do you want me to do?

Like what reason is there for me to say that Anyone, Me, Oda or zoro the character should give a shit?

I mean isn't 80 chapters good enough for set up? Unless you think we're basically not even half way into the arc or something and characters are yet to even see Pivotal plot points of their own character arcs yet. Like are you waiting for like Franky to find out his parents are part of the beast pirates too and then Oda is gonna make that a big plot point?

Thats the level of randomness a Zoro Backstory would have right now. It's on the level of Frank finding his parents in the beat pirates and we get a flashback of how they kicked him off the ship. But no. It's even lamer. A zoro Backstory is even lamer than a Franky finding his parents. You know why?

Because FRANKY WOULD FUCKIN CARE. Frank would react to finding his fucking parents while Zoro wouldn't give a damn about hearing his long lost dead father is from Wano and that's it. Like seriously im not trolling.

Everyone knows that Zoro wouldn't care yet they still want Oda to make a story about something they know no character would care about. It's so weird
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This is the defnition of pushing your narrative... cool narrative, There hasnt been any hint of zoro backdrop so why would there be... that's literarly your narrative and how you feel the story would be if Zoro got a backstory. Also dont know why you brought up Franky even though he saw Tom as a father figure and iceberg as a brother figure. Also really dont care about your future tunnel vision responses

Had a random Sanji backstory.... out of the blue... Northblue

Would I love a Zoro full backstory.... yes... I did say he would fosureeeee get a OP Flashback, obviously he's the best OP Character.... so are we going to get it this arc.... in reality it's a maybe in small small pieces based of SBS, but we Will 100% be seeing a training flashback
 
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