Chapter Discussion 3 gods knights alone are enough to handle strawhats + entire elbaf

#21
World Government has no reason to know the Straw Hats are on Elbaph, and they're already resorting to kidnap children. I'm sure their plans would be enough for the giants (and that's already hype given it's the strongest island), but I don't think they've incorporated Gaban and the Straw Hats in their plans. Wouldn't be surprised if things escalate once the Holy Knights realize the crew is here. I doubt three Holy Knights are beating the whole Straw Hats.
 
#24
The World Government would be colossal fools to not expect the Strawhats to be at Elbaf. They were literally saved by the Giant pirates at Egghead and raised Dory & Brogy’s bounties from that.

What kind of morons would they be to not put two and two together when Elbaf is one of the closest islands they could go to next?
That’s why this HK invasion timing is so silly.
 
#25
The World Government would be colossal fools to not expect the Strawhats to be at Elbaf. They were literally saved by the Giant pirates at Egghead and raised Dory & Brogy’s bounties from that.

What kind of morons would they be to not put two and two together when Elbaf is one of the closest islands they could go to next?
That’s why this HK invasion timing is so silly.
“Silly” lol

It’s intentional
 
#27
Holy Knights don't know SH are here, they aren't ready for that.

But the story needs some tension so it's a hostage instead of them being powerful.

If they are actually powerful, each one would need to be admiral level
3 admirals isn't enough vs

Luffy
Zoro
Gaban
Dorry
Brogy
Jinbei
Sanji
+ Hundreds of capable Giants and SHP veterans

Luffy alone takes one out without to much trouble, Zoro at the very least keeps one honest by himself and then you have the rest easily murdering the last one.
 
#31
3 admirals isn't enough vs

Luffy
Zoro
Gaban
Dorry
Brogy
Jinbei
Sanji
+ Hundreds of capable Giants and SHP veterans

Luffy alone takes one out without to much trouble, Zoro at the very least keeps one honest by himself and then you have the rest easily murdering the last one.
They only have two admirals and Akainu left

Kizaru and Akainu can army of two Elbaf at high diff maximum

As much as I hate him, there is a strong argument to be made that Greenbull solos because of his power’s interaction with Adam tree
 
#32
They only have two admirals and Akainu left

Kizaru and Akainu can army of two Elbaf at high diff maximum

As much as I hate him, there is a strong argument to be made that Greenbull solos because of his power’s interaction with Adam tree
Only two? What do you mean? Until further notice they have Kizaru, Fujitora and Ryukogyu with Akainu set apart as FA.

Luffy already showed that he could handle Kizaru fine by himself.

My money is on Zoro being able to at least draw/hold off either of Fujitora or Ryukogyu. But there is of course the problem of both having AoE so Zoro would have to force the fight to the outskirts so no one else gets caught up in the cross fire.

Green Bulls interaction with the Adams tree only makes him in to target practice. Oars Jr, Pica, Avalo Pizarro, Kaidos dragon form have all shown that what you gain in strength you also lose in evasion.
 
#33
Only two? What do you mean? Until further notice they have Kizaru, Fujitora and Ryukogyu with Akainu set apart as FA.

Luffy already showed that he could handle Kizaru fine by himself.

My money is on Zoro being able to at least draw/hold off either of Fujitora or Ryukogyu. But there is of course the problem of both having AoE so Zoro would have to force the fight to the outskirts so no one else gets caught up in the cross fire.

Green Bulls interaction with the Adams tree only makes him in to target practice. Oars Jr, Pica, Avalo Pizarro, Kaidos dragon form have all shown that what you gain in strength you also lose in evasion.
Fujitora is an open enemy of the world government and is probably in prison or on the run.

Greenbull is a logia. If he doesn’t manifest his body he will not be injured. He could destroy the entire nation by simply not letting people know what he’s doing and then taking over the tree.
 
#34
Fujitora is an open enemy of the world government and is probably in prison or on the run.

Greenbull is a logia. If he doesn’t manifest his body he will not be injured. He could destroy the entire nation by simply not letting people know what he’s doing and then taking over the tree.
Seems like a bit of head canon, no? Last we saw of Fujitora was when, Reverie? Yes, his actions in Dressrosa and Reverie leaves question marks regarding his loyalty but what are the marines supposed to do about it? In both instances he "accidently" happened to help pirates or free slaves. They might suspect, and even if they now, the marines already had Aokiji defect to Blackbeard. Can the marines really risk Fujitora defecting to bolster Dragon or Shanks?

I'm very underwhelmed by Ryukogyu. Like with all DF in the perfect setting he might be much more dangerous than in a neutral battlefield but overall his strength and techniques seem to be the lowest of all admirals.
 
#35
Seems like a bit of head canon, no? Last we saw of Fujitora was when, Reverie? Yes, his actions in Dressrosa and Reverie leaves question marks regarding his loyalty but what are the marines supposed to do about it? In both instances he "accidently" happened to help pirates or free slaves. They might suspect, and even if they now, the marines already had Aokiji defect to Blackbeard. Can the marines really risk Fujitora defecting to bolster Dragon or Shanks?

I'm very underwhelmed by Ryukogyu. Like with all DF in the perfect setting he might be much more dangerous than in a neutral battlefield but overall his strength and techniques seem to be the lowest of all admirals.
Dude he fought Greenbull he didn’t “accidentally” do anything
 
#37
Fujitora is an open enemy of the world government and is probably in prison or on the run.

Greenbull is a logia. If he doesn’t manifest his body he will not be injured. He could destroy the entire nation by simply not letting people know what he’s doing and then taking over the tree.
Fuji was shown post reverie to be still a marine admiral talking about how “us marines” need to put their faith in Child Slaves
 
#40
Only 1 current god knight is actually useful, summers and gillingham are ussop and chopper opponents and ussop is going to get the mark fruit and have to fight summers and chopper is going to fight gillingham. Gunko realistically solos the god knights, it’s basically beerus, whis, Zeno and the grand priest. Shamrock is beerus, the more action taker and less calm and has control over whis. Gunko is whis, calm, feminine, and a servant to beerus/shamrock. Garling is the grand priest, seeming to be very powerful and the right hand man to Imu and also more of an action taker. Imu is zeno, the most powerful yet not really a fighter, staying in his base destroying things from outside
 
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