Speculations 5 reasons why Sanji will not fight King.

The only time oda switch his formula was in arlong park arc i remenber zoro againts 2nd commander hachi and sanji vs 1st commander kuroobi, which is zoro fight comes first then sanji later...then in later arc its always the same formula
Zoro vs 1st commander
Sanji vs 2nd commander
Sanji has just joined the crew for the second time and AP was the first arc after he joined :blush:
 
Kaku used kicks very proficiently also had a lot of speed and agility similar to Sanji,
anyone who mastered Rokushiki are capable and versatile fighters.. that also why CP9 member had leg slashes and Kaku turned out to be a swordsman using his blades in conjunction with Rokushiki... so the match up wasn't there regardless...i'd take it a step ahead and say that sanji is well versed is leg martial arts and the first one to push tekkai to its breaking point.. even Kaku noted to that.. and he himself said to not underestimate sanji and he has logical grounds for saying that after what he witnessed.


against vergo he was nerfed a fact I'm pretty sure you'll over look and understate

King anf Doffy were forced to use their DF against sanji.. so meh.. if your enemy complements your strength twice.. it no longer a banter or a coincidence... alot of what you mentioned is just undercooked and misinterpreted assumptions which honestly prove nothing.
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Sanji can deal with gifters in 10 seconds while together with Iuffy it takes just 3 seconds
Jimbe did that in a second.
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As someone who wants Zoro to fight King, both the reasons that people give for either Zoro or Sanji to fight him are pretty superficial let's be honest.

"Zoro can cut fire"
"Sanji can fly and also uses fire"
"King uses a sword like Zoro"
"King already had a clash with Sanji"
"Zoro is second strongest"

We've never needed a super good reason or history between Zoro and Sanji's opponents for a matchup to happen, they'll fight who they need to fight.
No that is factually untrue, sanji fighting king makes sense because of his connection to the momo plotline and because that is where sanji is headed right now, furthermore king already tried to kill sanji once so no its not superficial, the people wanting zoro vs king are only providing superficial reasons like the sword and second strongest narrative which has been non existent in the post time skip, also they want zoro to fight king to rub it in the sanji fans faces and say that not only did zoro fight 2 yonkos but he even beat the strongest enemy down below...…like it or not its the truth.
 
Literally nobody wants Sanji vs King because of Zoro. Oda gave us a taste of Sanji vs King in 988. And everyone who's on the Sanji vs King train has been thirsting for more.

Dont listen to the words of jealous Zori fans and TAC
I won't
Literally nobody wants Sanji vs King because of Zoro. Oda gave us a taste of Sanji vs King in 988. And everyone who's on the Sanji vs King train has been thirsting for more.

Dont listen to the words of jealous Zori fans and TAC
I won't because no zoro fan can make me turn my back on sanji never, ever lever :cheers:
 
No that is factually untrue, sanji fighting king makes sense because of his connection to the momo plotline and because that is where sanji is headed right now, furthermore king already tried to kill sanji once so no its not superficial, the people wanting zoro vs king are only providing superficial reasons like the sword and second strongest narrative which has been non existent in the post time skip, also they want zoro to fight king to rub it in the sanji fans faces and say that not only did zoro fight 2 yonkos but he even beat the strongest enemy down below...…like it or not its the truth.
"The Momo plotline"
Literally all the beast pirates who are still loyal to Kaido want Momo dead, it's not like King specifically is hunting him relentlessly, he just realized Momo is basically the figurehead of the alliance so he took the initiative to tell the rest of the crew to go and kill Momo.

Hell, by that logic, we might as well say King vs Yamato is guaranteed since she's the one currently protecting Momo.
Seriously we have so many characters that want to either kill or protect Momo in the island, Jack or Queen could somehow run into Momo first, Yamato, the scabbards and pretty much all of the alliance want to protect him.


"He already tried killing Sanji once"
Yet he immediately went back to do other things, without ever acknowledging Sanji again. Sanji hasn't expressed anything regarding King either.

With the situation we're at right now neither Sanji nor Zoro have some guaranteed 1v1 opponent that's been foreshadowed, it all depends on the situation they end up in.
 
"The Momo plotline"
Literally all the beast pirates who are still loyal to Kaido want Momo dead, it's not like King specifically is hunting him relentlessly, he just realized Momo is basically the figurehead of the alliance so he took the initiative to tell the rest of the crew to go and kill Momo.

Hell, by that logic, we might as well say King vs Yamato is guaranteed since she's the one currently protecting Momo.
Seriously we have so many characters that want to either kill or protect Momo in the island, Jack or Queen could somehow run into Momo first, Yamato, the scabbards and pretty much all of the alliance want to protect him.


"He already tried killing Sanji once"
Yet he immediately went back to do other things, without ever acknowledging Sanji again. Sanji hasn't expressed anything regarding King either.

With the situation we're at right now neither Sanji nor Zoro have some guaranteed 1v1 opponent that's been foreshadowed, it all depends on the situation they end up in.
But its still a fact that sanji will take precedence over someone like yamato as a main character furthermore you still cant deny that sanji does have MORE connections to king than yamato and zoro so this late into the arc oda is not going to just conjure up a plotline where zoro fits in to fight king when sanji already has one. The idea that sanji is going to fight one of the calamities is pretty much guaranteed and it stands to reason he will fight the one that is most connected to momo from a plot point of view and that is King, yes queen would kill momo if given the chance but he never placed that at the forefront of what he wanted to do, right now he is infront of 3 people who he wants to kill, tried to kill hyogoro, wants to kill drake and wants to kill chopper, king does not want to do any of that and since oda started it out with king pointing out that killing momo is integral to victory AND also being the only one to react to sanji when he saved momo while queen was right there but didn't engage is all more a reason to have them fight since its obviously the plot line king is most connected to.
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"The Momo plotline"
Literally all the beast pirates who are still loyal to Kaido want Momo dead, it's not like King specifically is hunting him relentlessly, he just realized Momo is basically the figurehead of the alliance so he took the initiative to tell the rest of the crew to go and kill Momo.

Hell, by that logic, we might as well say King vs Yamato is guaranteed since she's the one currently protecting Momo.
Seriously we have so many characters that want to either kill or protect Momo in the island, Jack or Queen could somehow run into Momo first, Yamato, the scabbards and pretty much all of the alliance want to protect him.


"He already tried killing Sanji once"
Yet he immediately went back to do other things, without ever acknowledging Sanji again. Sanji hasn't expressed anything regarding King either.

With the situation we're at right now neither Sanji nor Zoro have some guaranteed 1v1 opponent that's been foreshadowed, it all depends on the situation they end up in.
And the Yamato point is empty because she already said she wanted to head to the roof to face her father so ya.
 
But its still a fact that sanji will take precedence over someone like yamato as a main character furthermore you still cant deny that sanji does have MORE connections to king than yamato and zoro so this late into the arc oda is not going to just conjure up a plotline where zoro fits in to fight king when sanji already has one. The idea that sanji is going to fight one of the calamities is pretty much guaranteed and it stands to reason he will fight the one that is most connected to momo from a plot point of view and that is King, yes queen would kill momo if given the chance but he never placed that at the forefront of what he wanted to do, right now he is infront of 3 people who he wants to kill, tried to kill hyogoro, wants to kill drake and wants to kill chopper, king does not want to do any of that and since oda started it out with king pointing out that killing momo is integral to victory AND also being the only one to react to sanji when he saved momo while queen was right there but didn't engage is all more a reason to have them fight since its obviously the plot line king is most connected to.
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And the Yamato point is empty because she already said she wanted to head to the roof to face her father so ya.
My point is that you're taking King ordering his crew to kill Momo and Sanji's desire to protect him and stretching it into a "plotline".

I don't doubt Sanji could probably have another chivalrous moment where he'd protect Momo, but we already have Kanjuro trying to hunt him down, i don't see how King's priority would suddenly shift from the main conflict on the live floor to go chase after Momo himself.

And if you really want a matchup with actual foreshadowing and a connection, Queen stating his connection with Judge is a much compelling plotline that directly relates to Sanji.
 
My point is that you're taking King ordering his crew to kill Momo and Sanji's desire to protect him and stretching it into a "plotline".

I don't doubt Sanji could probably have another chivalrous moment where he'd protect Momo, but we already have Kanjuro trying to hunt him down, i don't see how King's priority would suddenly shift from the main conflict on the live floor to go chase after Momo himself.

And if you really want a matchup with actual foreshadowing and a connection, Queen stating his connection with Judge is a much compelling plotline that directly relates to Sanji.
Pero noticed marco getting exhausted, so he is going to take him out or else what was the point of oda drawing that panel of pero smirking when he saw marcos condition, also by that logic king will never leave the live floor and just be defeated by...….who? marco? a side character that has no chance in defeating such a major antagonist in an arc where every strawhat is taking care of a executive. You must understand that sanji is headed to momo right now, it should take him only a couple minutes to get here and when he does that is when his fight will start similar to EL, who is going to be the most likely person to prioritize momo in the next couple minutes other than king? and also explain to me how sanji will fit in to the Queen, drake , chopper and hyogoro conflict, if sanji somehow abandons the momo mission he is on for no reason and also heads for queen which would make no sense why he would do that, then you are leaving 3 characters with nothing to do just breaking multiple plotlines for the sake of a comment about the character sanji does not care about, the judge and germa plot for sanji was resolved in WCI that was the point now that is all behind him, sanji will not have a death match with queen because he knows a guy that just so happens to be his father who he himself doesn't even consider his father but he will if king tries to kill momo or the scabbards in front of sanji which like I said are the 2 groups of characters sanji is directly connected to and heading for.
 
Sanji fans never have real arguments for why Queen's comment on Judge isn't foreshadowing for their fight. They either say they want more Judge info dump to come from Vegapunk or they don't know how it'll happen: wishful thinking and arguments from ignorance.
 
Sanji fans never have real arguments for why Queen's comment on Judge isn't foreshadowing for their fight. They either say they want more Judge info dump to come from Vegapunk or they don't know how it'll happen: wishful thinking and arguments from ignorance.
If oda wanted a judge info dump he would have had it be in the arc where the guy was one of its main players not in wano the judge comment is just a red herring from oda that's what writers do to throw their audience off and create confusion which ultimately leads to the surprise reveal.
 
If oda wanted a judge info dump he would have had it be in the arc where the guy was one of its main players not in wano
The fact Queen alludes to knowing Judge means Oda wants Judge info dump in Wano. Again, wishful thinking but with "Oda would"s stapled to it.

the judge comment is just a red herring from oda that's what writers do to throw their audience off and create confusion which ultimately leads to the surprise reveal.
It's not a red herring; you just want excuses for Sanji and Queen's confrontation to not happen.
 
The fact Queen alludes to knowing Judge means Oda wants Judge info dump in Wano. Again, wishful thinking but with "Oda would"s stapled to it.



It's not a red herring; you just want excuses for Sanji and Queen's confrontation to not happen.
I couldn't careless dude if sanji beats either king or queen its equally as impressive I am just telling you that sanji is not involved with anything queen is involved in and that's how its been since the start of the raid so could sanji fight queen sure he can....but the chances of him fighting king are higher in my book and you can't deny that sanji vs king is also a possibility and has a foundation to it, it also seems you don't want the sanji and king confrontation just as much my friend, because of what it implies for sanji as a fighter which you know based off you're comment history I can understand why you are so against it.
 
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I couldn't careless dude if sanji beats either king or queen its equally as impressive I am just telling you that sanji is not involved with anything queen is involved in and that's how its been since the start of the raid
Sanji will be involved with Queen when the story is ready for it.

so could sanji fight queen sure he can....but the chances of him fighting king are higher in my book and you can't deny that sanji vs king is also a possibility and has a foundation to it
The fact Queen is Kaido's second strongest and had apparent acquaintanceship with Judge makes it more probable he gets Sanji.

it also seems you don't want the sanji and king confrontation just as much my friend, because of what it implies for sanji as a fighter which you know based off you comment history I can understand why you are so against it.
It's not that I don't want it to happen, I KNOW it won't happen.
 
Sanji will be involved with Queen when the story is ready for it.



The fact Queen is Kaido's second strongest and had apparent acquaintanceship with Judge makes it more probable he gets Sanji.



It's not that I don't want it to happen, I KNOW it won't happen.
You can't say more probable then say you know its going to happen that's just a contradiction your are either certain beyond probability or you admit there is a chance...ultimately i can present my case and you present yours both riddled with bias but its oda who will decide we will see who of us is right and look man if you are right props.....but if i am right........better give me props :P lol
 
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Sanji fans never have real arguments for why Queen's comment on Judge isn't foreshadowing for their fight. They either say they want more Judge info dump to come from Vegapunk or they don't know how it'll happen: wishful thinking and arguments from ignorance.
They are both scientists, he will most likely appear in Kaido's flashback about PH and Vegapunk and Oda wants to play with his food:nicagesmile:
 
You can't say more probable then say you know its going to happen that's just a contradiction your are either certain beyond probability or you admit there is a chance...ultimately i can present my case and you present yours both riddled with bias but its oda who will decide we will see who of us is right and look man if you are right props.....but if i am right........better give me pops :P lol
My word choices contradicting each other doesn't matter. The chances of Sanji fighting Queen is higher than him fighting King. I look at the details that matter. It's how I predicted the return-to-the-rooftop chapters before the matchups are set that removes Zeus AND Zoro.



They are both scientists, he will most likely appear in Kaido's flashback about PH and Vegapunk and Oda wants to play with his food:nicagesmile:
If you're using the Nicagesmile emoji, at least use it for counterpoints and not obvious coping.
 
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