A generation of weak men

My guy, all of you were going off-topic with that rant about LGBTQ+ and effeminate men. The whole thread is about how hysterical the modern man is, not about gay or frail-looking men. Learn to fucking read before trying to be a smartass. I took my time already explaining this for the functionality illiterate that hang around here. Don't make me talk to myself 7 times more.
We made one off komments a piece, and then random whatever shiyd. You’re legit arguing with ghosts lol. MZTS and Daniel were talkin to each other and he quoted you once and you went on to shout at klouds for over an hr LMAO
 
Pre-Industrial revolution. I think the root cause of much of all the bad shit going on started because of the Industrial revolution.
The industrial revolution that allowed moder society? That allowed life expectansy to sky rocket? That allowed poverty to shrink almost completly in some countries? You people have a very wrong idea on how life was before it.
 
The industrial revolution that allowed moder society? That allowed life expectansy to sky rocket? That allowed poverty to shrink almost completly in some countries? You people have a very wrong idea on how life was before it.
Next industrial revolution might just throw them all back at misery again.
We made one off komments a piece, and then random whatever shiyd. You’re legit arguing with ghosts lol. MZTS and Daniel were talkin to each other and he quoted you once and you went on to shout at klouds for over an hr LMAO
Is that the best you got? Lame.
 
If that is the case, why some children in schools, churches and orphanages get molested? The bystander effect is real. Groups dilute responsibility.
True, but only in the case of strangers. The bystander effect can actually be countered very easily if the victim points directly to someone to ask them for help.

You are confusing institutions and groups of people/community of raising. Institutions reproduces the interests of the dominations systems like patriarchy or racism for ex.. That's precisely why we are against them. The reason is their structure. Under capitalism, institutions will be capitalistic, under racism, they will be racist and so forth..

We want to desinstitutionnalize AND create healthy community / collectives. In such community, there will be no bystander effects and there won't be the problem related to the reproductions of dominations of institutions.

Group do delute responsibility, but they also aslo increase social pressure. So if something happens within such a group
Feminism started at around the time of the first industrial revolution.
Feminism goes beyond that. Only the organization of feminism started around that time.
 
@Logiko


You've written about a lot of stuff, especially responding to Nameless

I'm curious what you think specifically on the idea that:





Testosterone causes male sexual characteristics, so it is sort of the definition of masculinity

And same for estrogen, for femininity
 
Testosterone causes male sexual characteristics, so it is sort of the definition of masculinity

And same for estrogen, for femininity
I do not agree with that. Simply because I believe that masculinity and feminity are social constructs that evolves over time. It can be said because throurough history, these two notions have evolved independently of the vision of sexual characteristics that we know today.

Social constructs are fluid things, they evolve overtime. Genre are ones of the exemples.
 
I do not agree with that. Simply because I believe that masculinity and feminity are social constructs that evolves over time. It can be said because throurough history, these two notions have evolved independently of the vision of sexual characteristics that we know today.

Social constructs are fluid things, they evolve overtime. Genre are ones of the exemples.
Why do you believe that?
 
Why do you believe that?
Because that's the conclusion of researchers working on these subjects in social sciences. It's also how non binary people live their existences so we have a real life way to understand in real time how gender can be fluid.

Testosteron can be a wonderfull things for various medical things. But it is not be the definitive factor through which masculinities are observed.

Sexual characteristics and genders are two different things and even sexual characteristics are not fixed between female an male, we actually invented those categories, but there are multiple ways to see both sex and genders.

Nature is complex and beautiful in its complexity, we need to be careful not to make too many shortcuts.
 
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