A generation of weak men
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My guy, no. I'm chill. In fact, I'm finding all these reactions very hilarious. I only bumped this thread and, yet, somehow, "bump" is mysoginistic, far right, incel, goyper, chud word that insults women and lgbtq+ people. I literaly just said this:
Then you and others went on a rant about effeminate men and gay people as if I or Yubel were talking about those to begin with, which we were not. Maybe Yubel didn't use the proper word, but his original post was a rant about how people have gone hysterical and can't deal with life problems using a stoic attitude anymore. This isn't about sexuality. Please re-read Yubel original post and reflect on how you are reacting to this silly *bump* of mine. You people are seeing the word "feminine", taking it out of the context and missreading the message of Yubel-sama.
To me, this whole thing proves Yubel's point. All of you assumed my naive bump had some ulterior motive. I just realized this thread was inactive for months and decided to post in it for shits and giggles. Well, I got my entertainment.
If there is someone losing his marbles, it ain't me
Then you and others went on a rant about effeminate men and gay people as if I or Yubel were talking about those to begin with, which we were not. Maybe Yubel didn't use the proper word, but his original post was a rant about how people have gone hysterical and can't deal with life problems using a stoic attitude anymore. This isn't about sexuality. Please re-read Yubel original post and reflect on how you are reacting to this silly *bump* of mine. You people are seeing the word "feminine", taking it out of the context and missreading the message of Yubel-sama.
To me, this whole thing proves Yubel's point. All of you assumed my naive bump had some ulterior motive. I just realized this thread was inactive for months and decided to post in it for shits and giggles. Well, I got my entertainment.
If there is someone losing his marbles, it ain't me
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Oh ok
I was just talking about what masculinity is
Imo it's as simple as this:
Testosterone causes male sex characteristics, so whatever aspects testosterone gives are what masculinity is
Same with femininity, but for estrogen
Also, I think only the natural baseline of testosterone applies, someone who is:
- muscular ( because that's what signals to the body to produce lots of test )
- doesn't surpress their test with overtraining, bad sleep, drugs, etc
Steroids like TRT do not apply, because they are often given in too massive doses, and when testosterone levels go way above the natural baseline, a process called something like aromatization happens, and the extra testosterone is converted into estrogen
I was just talking about what masculinity is
Imo it's as simple as this:
Testosterone causes male sex characteristics, so whatever aspects testosterone gives are what masculinity is
Same with femininity, but for estrogen
Also, I think only the natural baseline of testosterone applies, someone who is:
- muscular ( because that's what signals to the body to produce lots of test )
- doesn't surpress their test with overtraining, bad sleep, drugs, etc
Steroids like TRT do not apply, because they are often given in too massive doses, and when testosterone levels go way above the natural baseline, a process called something like aromatization happens, and the extra testosterone is converted into estrogen
Sucks
I know one influencer who had testosterone issues, he wasn't even on low testosterone, had 700ng, but it was not very high
He decided on TRT, even though weed kills testosterone, and he was addicted to it
The sad part is that he was all about changing your life for the better, so it's like, Man you have good test levels even on using weed, overcome that and you're at the peak of the baseline
I know one influencer who had testosterone issues, he wasn't even on low testosterone, had 700ng, but it was not very high
He decided on TRT, even though weed kills testosterone, and he was addicted to it
The sad part is that he was all about changing your life for the better, so it's like, Man you have good test levels even on using weed, overcome that and you're at the peak of the baseline
You know what's weird too?
Supposedly microplastics kill testosterone
But the decrease in testosterone among the population coincides with the increase of other lifestyle factors that lower testosterone
For example, after 2010, supposedly microplastics got so bad that test levels decrease by 2.5% per year
You know what else happened between 2010 and 2020?
An explosion in obesity rates, and obesity causes the body to do the same process that excess test causes it to do, aromatization, it turns the testosterone into estrogen
Microplastics getting that bad just so happen to coincide with an explosion in the thing that kills testosterone the most
Coincidence?
So imo, microplastics are irelevant for testosterone and are a boogey man
Supposedly microplastics kill testosterone
But the decrease in testosterone among the population coincides with the increase of other lifestyle factors that lower testosterone
For example, after 2010, supposedly microplastics got so bad that test levels decrease by 2.5% per year
You know what else happened between 2010 and 2020?
An explosion in obesity rates, and obesity causes the body to do the same process that excess test causes it to do, aromatization, it turns the testosterone into estrogen
Microplastics getting that bad just so happen to coincide with an explosion in the thing that kills testosterone the most
Coincidence?
So imo, microplastics are irelevant for testosterone and are a boogey man
Ok, but what about the emotional/psychological/moral factor to it? People are too hysterical. Just look how some people are reacting to just a bump. Too much unreasonable behavior. Men don't take responsibility for their actions anymore either. Everyone has a scapegoat to point to. I don't see many people saying, "I fucked up; it's my fault my life is shit" anymore. No accountability.
I think there is a lot shit going on at the same time. For starters, moms don't stay at home with their kids anymore. They are busy working. This affects how babies' and kids' neurology is being wired in a negative way. We are more anxious and insecure now in a physiological level. Second, men don't have any rewards guaranteed for being providers anymore. Marriage has become Russian roulette. Many men don't even have access to their kids. Absent fathers are heavily correlated with criminality, btw.
There is also the mass apostasy from religion. Men don't have a clear and concise moral compass anymore. On top of all that, there are also political narratives preaching for ideologies that don't hold individuals accountable for their actions. And with that, hope goes away too. People are nihilistic now.
I don't think I even need to talk about the current economy and job market. Many people don't even have a profession anymore. They just live off welfare checks. Billionaires are straight up debating universal basic income, because AI is only going to exarcebate this problem further.
Men are supposed to lead, build and protect. We don't do any of that anymore. It is a genuine crisis going on. We have all become alienated from our nature. I think these past cultural revolutions have completely confused society. The roles aren't clear as they used too. The future does not look bright either. I'm thinking of not marrying and having kids at all. The world is fucking cruel now. Industrial society is anti-human.
I think the physiology (or health) is a minor problem here, actually. Yes, there is a bunch of unhealthy shit being consumed by people, but I don't think low testosterone is the cause of all the unemployement, criminality, hedonism and unaccountability we are seeing here.
I think there is a lot shit going on at the same time. For starters, moms don't stay at home with their kids anymore. They are busy working. This affects how babies' and kids' neurology is being wired in a negative way. We are more anxious and insecure now in a physiological level. Second, men don't have any rewards guaranteed for being providers anymore. Marriage has become Russian roulette. Many men don't even have access to their kids. Absent fathers are heavily correlated with criminality, btw.
There is also the mass apostasy from religion. Men don't have a clear and concise moral compass anymore. On top of all that, there are also political narratives preaching for ideologies that don't hold individuals accountable for their actions. And with that, hope goes away too. People are nihilistic now.
I don't think I even need to talk about the current economy and job market. Many people don't even have a profession anymore. They just live off welfare checks. Billionaires are straight up debating universal basic income, because AI is only going to exarcebate this problem further.
Men are supposed to lead, build and protect. We don't do any of that anymore. It is a genuine crisis going on. We have all become alienated from our nature. I think these past cultural revolutions have completely confused society. The roles aren't clear as they used too. The future does not look bright either. I'm thinking of not marrying and having kids at all. The world is fucking cruel now. Industrial society is anti-human.
I think the physiology (or health) is a minor problem here, actually. Yes, there is a bunch of unhealthy shit being consumed by people, but I don't think low testosterone is the cause of all the unemployement, criminality, hedonism and unaccountability we are seeing here.
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Honestly I don't think anyone not trying to be a bodybuilder should ever use it. Maybe not even bodybuilders. Is just not worth it. But is hard to say shit is not attractive. At the end of the day people on roids will be more attractive, will sell more and therefore profit from it. But if you are not even profiting for it or getting laid. Dude... Why? Padre Marcelo Rossi...