Kaido as a young man believed devil fruits were an essential path to power, a seasoned Kaido believed that you could conquer the world with haki alone and in the end its king. This doesn’t mean after honing one’s haki that you should stop using your devil fruit powers this is what people miss when discussing haki vs devil fruit. Kaido and Luffy’s big final attack wasn’t *just* haki or *just* devil fruit it was a combination. Giant magma dragon form blasting a breath laced in haki and a colossal island sized fist laced in haki and the last word of the clash is Luffy thinking back to his training so that he doesn’t have to make direct contact to strike. The lesson of Wano at least when it comes to battle is that great haki can overcome anything, great fruit plus great haki can be even crazier, and throughout the story we have come to learn that just a strong fruit with nothing else can only take you so far.
Why does that matter so much?
Both Kaidou’s Devil Fruit and the abilities it grants are better than any admiral’s, and his Haki is also stronger than all of theirs. Like, Kaidou just pulled off a 2–0 here.
Leaving Haki and the Devil Fruit aside, it’s 3–0 because he’s insanely durable and also extremely strong physically.
Why do you think everything is for Mihawk and Zoro?
This is obviously about the HK, Gorosei, Imu and Blackbeard.
Go figure that immediately after Kaido's line about Roger being the best due to his absurd Haki, we got characters that specifically need Conq Haki to be permanently damaged, and the final villain (BB) can remove DFs and force you to rely on Haki...
Edit: Also Sakazuki as Luffy literally just can't touch him without good Haki
Admirals haven't gone all out and have already shown better haki than Laido who was getting pummeled by base Luffy. Imagine when they finally do go all out
Whitebeard: WSM due to world ending Gura powers
Kaido: WSC due to dragon devil fruit
Linlin: built her empire using the soul devil fruit
Outside their devil fruits, there are barely any notable feats against top tiers using base mode, you can only make a case for Whitebeard against Roger
Kizaru has actual cqc feats against Nika amd Rayleigh, two yonko killers, without direct usage of his power
We have Kuzan matching Garp the fist
Fujitora with a supreme blade and Greenbull with a black blade
I knew some retard was gonna make a thread about this
Young Kaido is impressed with WBs DF power, young Kaido wants a DF. Young Kaido gets a DF. Adult Kaido says that haki transcends all. See the fucking growth.
This shit has been shown again and again in the manga even about Ace who overly relied on his DF.
LassmiraLturds are just pissed because an Admiral got side quest mid diffed by Rookie Rocks and because no LassmiraL has shown ACoC so far.
They swore up and down kizaru the strongest admiral was going to show superior feats than kaido in egghead on panel and it turns out kizaru best feat in the manga came in a sbs 😭
Now they just spend all day attacking his character instead of feats they’ve completely abandoned the agenda.
Fruitless kaido vs fruitless admirals
Gee I wonder who wins🫣
Kaido has the best of both worlds yes he went for the df merchant route initially but he also honed his haki to great level
He is on par with the so called old legends and current yonko.
His fruit is responsible for 95% of his durability, Xebec was kicking him around and treating him like a rug without it. His strongest attack is also mostly df-based, its lethality and temperature was highlighted.
He was coated in haki too. And was overwhelmed by a haki infused attack with barrier. Kaido is right that you can conquer the seas evem without a df that was his point. Roger, Xebec did it. Xebec mid diffed an admiral without any df.
With a df alone you can't do it without haki, a df helps a haki user and that's about it. It becomes part of them
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In his ultimate attack he was also coated in haki too tho. It was regarded a "fierce haki clash". Maybe read the manga
So his haki was completely surpassed by Goofball after 15 minutes? lol. Mind you that Luffy was waiting for Momo to move the island before putting his back into it.
His fruit is responsible for 95% of his durability, Xebec was kicking him around and treating him like a rug without it. His strongest attack is also mostly df-based, its lethality and temperature was highlighted.
So his haki was completely surpassed by Goofball after 15 minutes? lol. Mind you that Luffy was waiting for Momo to move the island before putting his back into it.
His fruit is responsible for 95% of his durability, Xebec was kicking him around and treating him like a rug without it. His strongest attack is also mostly df-based, its lethality and temperature was highlighted.
So his haki was completely surpassed by Goofball after 15 minutes? lol. Mind you that Luffy was waiting for Momo to move the island before putting his back into it.
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