Chapter Discussion About Yamato helping out Luffy vs Kaido
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This is no different from Zoro oneshotting Apoo. I don't think it would have made any difference whether Ulti was aware of Yamato or not.
Do you mean the red rectangle? That doesn't look like someone who's 8 years old to me.
Do you have a link to his Vivre Card? I'd like to see it. I'd be more willing to trust it than an adult silhouette of someone who's supposed to be an 8 year old child.
Do you mean the red rectangle? That doesn't look like someone who's 8 years old to me.
Do you have a link to his Vivre Card? I'd like to see it. I'd be more willing to trust it than an adult silhouette of someone who's supposed to be an 8 year old child.
This is no different from Zoro oneshotting Apoo. I don't think it would have made any difference whether Ulti was aware of Yamato or not.
Do you mean the red rectangle? That doesn't look like someone who's 8 years old to me.
Do you have a link to his Vivre Card? I'd like to see it. I'd be more willing to trust it than an adult silhouette of someone who's supposed to be an 8 year old child.
Do you mean the red rectangle? That doesn't look like someone who's 8 years old to me.
Do you have a link to his Vivre Card? I'd like to see it. I'd be more willing to trust it than an adult silhouette of someone who's supposed to be an 8 year old child.
Well, I stand corrected then, thanks.
We'll see if Oda wants to build up a conflict between Jack and Yamato. Jack should probably encounter her within the next 5 chapters.
Why do you think Jack will defeat Inuarashi? Inuarashi is the one who has an extensive grudge and narrative build-up for his conflict with Jack. Any relationship or conflict between Yamato and Jack is all headcanon for now. Why should Oda abandon Inuarashi's narrative?
We'll see if Oda wants to build up a conflict between Jack and Yamato. Jack should probably encounter her within the next 5 chapters.
Why do you think Jack will defeat Inuarashi? Inuarashi is the one who has an extensive grudge and narrative build-up for his conflict with Jack. Any relationship or conflict between Yamato and Jack is all headcanon for now. Why should Oda abandon Inuarashi's narrative?
Kyros took out Diamante (which is the much more appropriate comparison).
If Jack was to be defeated by a Strawhat because the Strawhats need to surpass the Beast Pirates, I would have expected Jimbe to face him (Fishman vs Fishman, water abilities vs "The Drought", etc.).
If Jack's opponent is not dictated by such concerns but by narrative, well Inuarashi as a much stronger case than Yamato:
Inuarashi is the one who has an extensive grudge and narrative build-up for his conflict with Jack:
My God, the amount of narrative build up for Jack to be defeated at the hands of one of the Dukes is something else. And people want Oda to throw all of that away? For a fight that has zero setup? Because their headcanons do not agree with what the narrative suggests?
There has been no on panel relationship or conflict between Yamato and Jack. Why then should Oda abandon Inuarashi's narrative for that farce of a matchup?
Frankly I think it's terrible writing to discard the narrative of Jack vs the Sulong Dukes to satisfy some notion that the Beast Pirates must be bested by the Strawhats. It would be a disservice to Inuarashi's character, the Zou arc, and the entire Mokomo Dukedom.
If Oda wanted to go that route, he didn't need to repeatedly reinforce Jack's conflict with the Mink tribe in all his on panel appearances in Wano.
If Jack was to be defeated by a Strawhat because the Strawhats need to surpass the Beast Pirates, I would have expected Jimbe to face him (Fishman vs Fishman, water abilities vs "The Drought", etc.).
If Jack's opponent is not dictated by such concerns but by narrative, well Inuarashi as a much stronger case than Yamato:
Inuarashi is the one who has an extensive grudge and narrative build-up for his conflict with Jack:
- Jack attacked his country
- He fought Jack for 5 Days with Nekomamushi
- Jack laid waste to his country and his people with poison gas
- Jack tortured him
- He lost one of his legs to Jack's torture
- Together with Nekomamushi, he defeated Jack in Sulong.
- Jack sought the Dukes and Raizo out to finish things with them.
- He specifically prevented Black Maria from going after the Scabbards so that he could deal with them himself
- He defeated several Mink soldiers to get to them.
- Inuarashi stayed behind to stop Jack and prevent new victims:
My God, the amount of narrative build up for Jack to be defeated at the hands of one of the Dukes is something else. And people want Oda to throw all of that away? For a fight that has zero setup? Because their headcanons do not agree with what the narrative suggests?
There has been no on panel relationship or conflict between Yamato and Jack. Why then should Oda abandon Inuarashi's narrative for that farce of a matchup?
Frankly I think it's terrible writing to discard the narrative of Jack vs the Sulong Dukes to satisfy some notion that the Beast Pirates must be bested by the Strawhats. It would be a disservice to Inuarashi's character, the Zou arc, and the entire Mokomo Dukedom.
If Oda wanted to go that route, he didn't need to repeatedly reinforce Jack's conflict with the Mink tribe in all his on panel appearances in Wano.
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Kyros took out Diamante (which is the much more appropriate comparison).
If Jack was to be defeated by a Strawhat because the Strawhats need to surpass the Beast Pirates, I would have expected Jimbe to face him (Fishman vs Fishman, water abilities vs "The Drought", etc.).
If Jack's opponent is not dictated by such concerns but by narrative, well Inuarashi as a much stronger case than Yamato:
Inuarashi is the one who has an extensive grudge and narrative build-up for his conflict with Jack:
My God, the amount of narrative build up for Jack to be defeated at the hands of one of the Dukes is something else. And people want Oda to throw all of that away? For a fight that has zero setup? Because their headcanons do not agree with what the narrative suggests?
There has been no on panel relationship or conflict between Yamato and Jack. Why then should Oda abandon Inuarashi's narrative for that farce of a matchup?
Frankly I think it's terrible writing to discard the narrative of Jack vs the Sulong Dukes to satisfy some notion that the Beast Pirates must be bested by the Strawhats. It would be a disservice to Inuarashi's character, the Zou arc, and the entire Mokomo Dukedom.
If Oda wanted to go that route, he didn't need to repeatedly reinforce Jack's conflict with the Mink tribe in all his on panel appearances in Wano.
If Jack was to be defeated by a Strawhat because the Strawhats need to surpass the Beast Pirates, I would have expected Jimbe to face him (Fishman vs Fishman, water abilities vs "The Drought", etc.).
If Jack's opponent is not dictated by such concerns but by narrative, well Inuarashi as a much stronger case than Yamato:
Inuarashi is the one who has an extensive grudge and narrative build-up for his conflict with Jack:
- Jack attacked his country
- He fought Jack for 5 Days with Nekomamushi
- Jack laid waste to his country and his people with poison gas
- Jack tortured him
- He lost one of his legs to Jack's torture
- Together with Nekomamushi, he defeated Jack in Sulong.
- Jack sought the Dukes and Raizo out to finish things with them.
- He specifically prevented Black Maria from going after the Scabbards so that he could deal with them himself
- He defeated several Mink soldiers to get to them.
- Inuarashi stayed behind to stop Jack and prevent new victims:
My God, the amount of narrative build up for Jack to be defeated at the hands of one of the Dukes is something else. And people want Oda to throw all of that away? For a fight that has zero setup? Because their headcanons do not agree with what the narrative suggests?
There has been no on panel relationship or conflict between Yamato and Jack. Why then should Oda abandon Inuarashi's narrative for that farce of a matchup?
Frankly I think it's terrible writing to discard the narrative of Jack vs the Sulong Dukes to satisfy some notion that the Beast Pirates must be bested by the Strawhats. It would be a disservice to Inuarashi's character, the Zou arc, and the entire Mokomo Dukedom.
If Oda wanted to go that route, he didn't need to repeatedly reinforce Jack's conflict with the Mink tribe in all his on panel appearances in Wano.
Here all straw hats are here. It’s more like in Enies Lobby if Tilestone or Pauline took down Kaku.
Narrative can be written between two characters with almost no backstory rather easily.
Neither of them had as strong a case to face Kaku as Inuarashi does for Jack.
Even on Onigashima proper, Oda has continued to deepen the setup for Jack to fall to the Dukes instead of setting up Yamato vs Jack:
Oda didn't setup Yamato vs Jack, but instead built on the existing setup for the Dukes Vs. Jack. If he intended to have someone else finish Jack off, he could have setup a fight with them instead.
Even on Onigashima proper, Oda has continued to deepen the setup for Jack to fall to the Dukes instead of setting up Yamato vs Jack:
- The Dukes defeated Jack in their Sulong forms.
- Jack sought the Dukes and Raizo out to finish things with them.
- He specifically prevented Black Maria from going after the Scabbards so that he could deal with them himself
- He defeated several Mink soldiers to get to them.
- Inuarashi stayed behind to stop Jack and prevent new victims
Oda didn't setup Yamato vs Jack, but instead built on the existing setup for the Dukes Vs. Jack. If he intended to have someone else finish Jack off, he could have setup a fight with them instead.