Powers & Abilities ACoC Users in Each Gen

[Blazing Lion]

Alright since your OP knowledge is absolute garbage yet you dare to be condescending about it I'm going to thoroughly debunk your absolute shitclaim that an attack must not touch to be aCoC or that not touching has anything to do with aCoC for that matter

You asked to get humiliated so don't go around complaining after this.

Spoiler: Kaido makes contact with aCoC Ragnarok, this attack made Luffy realize you could coat yourself with CoC

Spoiler: Kaido makes contact with aCoC Roaring Thunder Bagua

Spoiler: Kaido crushes Kinemon's skull with aCoC

Spoiler: Luffy and Kaido make contact with aCoC blows

Spoiler: Kaido slams Luffy's head with aCoC

Spoiler: Luffy punches through Kaido's head using aCoC

Spoiler: Luffy says Hyogoro taught him how to attack without making contact proving it is ARMAMENT that creates the no touching effect

Spoiler: Luffy punches a tree without touching it before learning aCoC

Hahahahahahah, oh my Lord, can't believe people don't get sarcasm. I was just messing with you man, anyway thanks for the great post I will throw it in front of Rootbeer when we argue next time. I don't have the patience to write all that along with panels.

Though he has changed his position from ACoC being only no touch to touch ACoC being weaker than no touch ACoC.

 

[SakazOuki]

He didn't that's why he had to use is Ice Powers to offset Garp using low AdCoC..

He used the ice glove to protect his knuckles and cause more damage you fool

 

[Loki D. Terror]

It is not impossible for aokiji to not have adv coc. But oda never made any effort to reveal it on beehive.

 

[Blazing Lion]

Oden and Zori's Magic CoA Blade > Kaido's Skin..


If you never change your mind, you don't evolve..

True, I had hope for you and am glad you didn't disappoint, you are no longer an endangered specie.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

I don't think Kuzan has CoC coating. He's definitely a contender to have CoC though.

 

[Blazing Lion]

He only made that exception for zori and oden.
Now admits it exists but still refuses to give it to oden and zori.

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Oden and Zori Haki > Kaidou and Goofy Dorogon and Dika fruit.

Yeah, but he is making progress, there is still hope for him to become a Zoro fan.
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Now that you put it like that, can't believe we've got only 3 from this generation.



Is this clear enough for you?

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Yeah, seems weird. This is a gen that is supposed to surpass previous ones but they are severely lacking in this department. Coby will probably be one too.

 

[Rootbeer]

Possible. But I'd say it's just a matter of preference, as of now at least. I don't think you can lower your Haki level within the same version of Haki(Like, Invisible CoA, Coating, Barrier, Penetration, etc) whether you're using non-touching attacks or not. For instance, Luffy touches the collars when he removed them, and he still used the Penetration Haki:

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He uses the same Haki without touching:

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He kept on making contact with Kaido during the Rooftop fight:

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I don't think he was pulling his punches back while attacking Kaido at least. With that being said, I think more or less the same works for CoC as well. If we're to assume all CoC based attacks that make contact are weaker than non-touching attacks, then no swordsman will ever get to use their maximum potential as they all must make contact to make cuts.

That tree panel is very misleading.. Luffy purposely stayed his fist physically out of range but in Haki range to flow his energy only and blow it up.. The exercise was merely to master flowing Haki internally in something i think..

You can either use CoA Barrier or CoA Internal Destruction, not both at the same time cause CoA barrier restricts Haki flow which is the opposite for internal damage..

The AdCoC no touch and touch argument stems from Kaido after he defeated Luffy for the first on the Skulldome '' Your use of it(AdCoC) was crude and clumsy ''..

He used the ice glove to protect his knuckles and cause more damage you fool

Assuming that Aokiji CoA and Physical strenght is somewhat on par with old Garp since they did the same Battleship bag training..

Aokiji would have had the advantage with his '' Ice Glove'' power.. But Garp also used his AdCoC to counter, which made the exchange roughly equal..

 

[Gol D. Roger]

That tree panel is very misleading.. Luffy purposely stayed his fist physically out of range but in Haki range to flow his energy only and blow it up.. The exercise was merely to master flowing Haki internally in something i think..

You can either use CoA Barrier or CoA Internal Destruction, not both at the same time cause CoA barrier restricts Haki flow which is the opposite for internal damage..

The AdCoC no touch and touch argument stems from Kaido after he defeated Luffy for the first on the Skulldome '' Your use of it(AdCoC) was crude and clumsy ''..

I'd say Penetration is just an extension of the previous two versions of Haki i.e., it does what the other two does and more. It's true that Luffy deliberately not touch the tree, but that's besides the point I was making. What I am saying is, the functionality or the power of a penetration Haki based attack remains the same whether he's making contact or not as he does the same kind of damage in both cases.

 

[SakazOuki]

That tree panel is very misleading.. Luffy purposely stayed his fist physically out of range but in Haki range to flow his energy only and blow it up.. The exercise was merely to master flowing Haki internally in something i think..

You can either use CoA Barrier or CoA Internal Destruction, not both at the same time cause CoA barrier restricts Haki flow which is the opposite for internal damage..

The AdCoC no touch and touch argument stems from Kaido after he defeated Luffy for the first on the Skulldome '' Your use of it(AdCoC) was crude and clumsy ''..








Assuming that Aokiji CoA and Physical strenght is somewhat on par with old Garp since they did the same Battleship bag training..

Aokiji would have had the advantage with his '' Ice Glove'' power.. But Garp also used his AdCoC to counter, which made the exchange roughly equal..

1. Who says the exchange was equal or had equal damage to both parties, it was not a directclash afterall
2. Who says Aokiji’s CoA/ ACoC is on par with Garp’s

 

[Rootbeer]

I'd say Penetration is just an extension of the previous two versions of Haki i.e., it does what the other two does and more. It's true that Luffy deliberately not touch the tree, but that's besides the point I was making. What I am saying is, the functionality or the power of a penetration Haki based attack remains the same whether he's making contact or not as he does the same kind of damage in both cases.

There's no Penetration involved with CoA Barrier.. If you're trying to make a 1 to 1 comparison with AdCoC and CoA, it's not going to work, AdCoC doesn't flow in the body like CoA does..

1. Who says the exchange was equal or had equal damage to both parties, it was not a directclash afterall
2. Who says Aokiji’s CoA/ ACoC is on par with Garp’s

They both got thrown back respectively like Nasjuro and Zoro clash..

And at the end of his training, Aokiji had roughly the same hole in the battleship as Garp.. Oh yes, if i remember you don't believe that the Battleship Bag training was also a lowkey CoA training..

 

[ZenZu]

😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

Red haki trails reign supreme

 

[Dragon777]

.. Oh yes, if i remember you don't believe that the Battleship Bag training was also a lowkey CoA training..

It's not a problem of not believing: It was said.

 

[park_min young]

I don't think Kuzan has CoC coating. He's definitely a contender to have CoC though.

If he has CoC then there’s no way that he won’t have acoc. You can’t have one and not the other at that level, doesn’t make sense at all.

 

[L57]

It's literally not.. Mostly CoA..



I've changed my mind.. There's AdCoC no touch and AdCoC touch..

AdCoC no touch >> AdCoC touch

 

[ZenZu]

If he has CoC then there’s no way that he won’t have acoc. You can’t have one and not the other at that level, doesn’t make sense at all.

Kaidou and Big Mom awakenings when?

 

[Wanderer]

Watching people still trying to make sense out of haki

 

[Dragon777]

Kaidou and Big Mom awakenings when?

That Is partially different because there Is still the mind aligned with the fruit thing.

 

[ZenZu]

That Is partially different because there Is still the mind aligned with the fruit thing.

that's just headcanon

 

[JoNdule]

Kaidou and Big Mom awakenings when?

When are we having kuzan and Kizaru awakening?

The arc ended and Kizaru won't have any major fight/role again,
No awakening, no adhaki

 

[ZenZu]

When are we having kuzan and Kizaru awakening?

The arc ended and Kizaru won't have any major fight/role again,
No awakening, no adhaki

Big Mom arc ended in WCI and no ACoC