Versus Battle Admirals VS Akatsuki

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#71
Teleport moves you instantaneously from point A to point B.There is no timeframe in between.It has nothing to do with speedfeats
So you are stating TP is not bound by time hence it moves faster than light speed as LS is calculated by time, even then kizaru is not truly LS.....

It has everything to do with speed.



Any Admiral would dogwalk Hashirama,let alone the Akatsuki.Each Admiral is Continentlevel.Only Nardo God Tiers can defeat them
what are you showing me akainu struggling with 1hp WB?

for what reason other than intangibles does any admial dogwalk hasgirama?
 
#72
this is probably your first forumim an og from NF and OJ....
Nah, I joined OJ when Luffy vs Katakuri happened in the manga and I later joined NF a few years afterwards, as well with Comicvine.
Before I joined an English speaking forum, I was on a German forum as well and debated about Naruto and OP.

Also, Ohara Library and OBD section are two completely different things.

So you are stating TP is not bound by time hence it moves faster than light speed as LS is calculated by time, even then kizaru is not truly LS.....
So would you claim Law moves faster than Kizaru as well?

Don't forget, Minato's teleportation works by putting the marks onto objects. He's mostly teleporting when he's throwing kunais around or if he marked specific spots in the field.

what are you showing me akainu struggling with 1hp WB?
This clash happened before WB got a heart attack.

However, this doesn't matter since it's about Akainu equally clashing with the power to destroy the (OP) world which is huge af.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#73
Teleportation is not a speed feat or is Law's teleportation a speed feat?

The funny thing is, the only teleportation move - which is actually speed-related - is the object teleportation which teleports objects at LS. Both Tsunade and Ay were injured when they used this teleportation, so it's literally impossible that a far less durable character like Minato uses teleportation which moves him at LS because it'd rip his body apart.



Yet you claim Minato is LS...

So what is it now? Is fictional LS != irl LS or do we put LS on equal terms whenever we compare fictional characters?



Cool, so that either means many OP characters have no issue with LS or they are even FTL, pick your poison.



So Marco >>>> Snake Man in speed since Kizaru easily blocked all attacks and speed blitzed Snake Man with a single attack?



Non canon.



Again, you're gifting OP top tier feats to Naruto characters when both are completely different verses. Are you okay, dude?

Superman kept up with Flash, so it proves Hidan would hold his own against Flash as well? That's your stupid reasoning in a nutshell lol.
It cab be but he also has rules and laws to set it up, so it's easily able to read and counter

A you mean the one that Minato outsped..


the problem with LS for OP/lizaru specific is the fact that every single wanker tries to equate kizaru to IRL LS which it's the and isn't even close to being so, this is evidently proven. We can equate all fictional LS but no one would go for that cause lizaru is "light" even though he is still mass...

either/or but the truth of the matter is no single fictional anime/mange is LS at best they are MHS>SR/R


you carry a chip on your shoulder in VS but throw out simple logic of all speeds not being the same, Attack Speed, Combat Speed, Reaction Speed, Travel Speed, and Flight Speed. these all carry different speeds, in terms of travel lizarushould be no1. Ut he isn't we've seen garp and scopper move from point A to b quicker, we've seen other characters outpace snakeman Lucci, kat, Kaito, we've seen lightman get outpaced and blitzed, base luffy, sanji and hybrid marco, speed debates are the funniest thigs in vs cause any single character can have faster reaction speeds just as you said kizaru reacted to snakeman, g5 treated kizaru speeds like fodder even while using clones, even Lucci was able to react to g5 at times, speed is all over the placerhat 99% of debates are straight garbage and omit information or throwout basic logic that reaction speeds can be faster that travel and attack speed, zoros ASwws faster than Lucci while even being snuck so his reaction and attack both worked there.

nOn cAnON..... yawn stfu already Oda has already stated in terms of power and fighting prowess whatever was shown in red for RHP equates and translates directly to canon manga..

Lol so you're just using some made up nonsense now, I'm sorry did I "gift" speeds to every singlena4uto character or to one Minato who has feats to back him, you've yet to discredit those points ningen...
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#74
Nah, I joined OJ when Luffy vs Katakuri happened in the manga and I later joined NF a few years afterwards, as well with Comicvine.
Before I joined an English speaking forum, I was on a German forum as well and debated about Naruto and OP.

Also, Ohara Library and OBD section are two completely different things.



So would you claim Law moves faster than Kizaru as well?

Don't forget, Minato's teleportation works by putting the marks onto objects. He's mostly teleporting when he's throwing kunais around or if he marked specific spots in the field.



This clash happened before WB got a heart attack.

However, this doesn't matter since it's about Akainu equally clashing with the power to destroy the (OP) world which is huge af.
Lol I was all over OJ vs i created a majority of the debates there I don't remember you being apart of any noteworthy debates..
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
#75
This clash happened before WB got a heart attack.

However, this doesn't matter since it's about Akainu equally clashing with the power to destroy the (OP) world which is huge af.
Plenty of other clashed with full powered WBand much stronger versions of him, should we give credit to Ace and Croc?
 
#76
It cab be but he also has rules and laws to set it up, so it's easily able to read and counter
Law is less limited to teleportation than Minato.

In fact, Law's shambles highly resembles Sasuke's teleportation when he switches bodies.

A you mean the one that Minato outsped..
Ay is significantly more durable than Minato.

But go ahead and prove Minato's Hiraishin moves at LS.

the problem with LS for OP/lizaru specific is the fact that every single wanker tries to equate kizaru to IRL LS which it's the and isn't even close to being so, this is evidently proven. We can equate all fictional LS but no one would go for that cause lizaru is "light" even though he is still mass...
But did you not try to do the same thing when you claimed:

given Minato himself was lightspeeds that he out blitzed raikage who was lightning speed and obitoout speed blitzed both...
So I don't understand your hypocritical stance when you try to question Kizaru's lightspeed when you just gifted Minato LS without proof. Also, what do you mean "He doesn't have irl LS"? If we go by this argument, 99% of fictional characters cannot move with LS, yet we have countless characters capable of surpassing LS massively.

I view LS equally in fiction - the fastest speed limit until characters show they can truly go even beyond that.

So I stand by Daniel's thread about speed.

either/or but the truth of the matter is no single fictional anime/mange is LS at best they are MHS>SR/R
Alright lol.

these all carry different speeds, in terms of travel lizarushould be no1. Ut he isn't we've seen garp and scopper move from point A to b quicker, we've seen other characters outpace snakeman Lucci, kat, Kaito, we've seen lightman get outpaced and blitzed, base luffy, sanji and hybrid marco, speed debates are the funniest thigs in vs cause any single character can have faster reaction speeds just as you said kizaru reacted to snakeman, g5 treated kizaru speeds like fodder even while using clones, even Lucci was able to react to g5 at times.
Kizaru has both travel and attack speed at the speed of light since it was confirmed several times.
1.) Garp and Scopper moved faster than Kizaru? When?
2.) Who outpace Snake Man like a snail? Both Kaido and Katakuri needed FS to counter that, while Kizaru was casually handling Snake Man's gatling attack whilst blitzing him:



So Kizaru was still way faster in both travel and attack speed. Snake Man was no issue for him.
3.) Kizaru was blitzed by none of them unless you can post the panel, lol. Making up stuff now, huh?
4.) When was G5 treating Kizaru's speed like fodder?



Also, are you trying to either debunk or making things easier for me? I can't read your intention at all, lol. Because if G5 treats LS like fodder, he's FTL, do you truly want to die on that hill?
By the way, it's not that G5 is so much faster than Snake Man, the way how G5 fights is completely unpredictable and this can even irritate someone chilled like Kizaru.

5.) Do I need to post panels to see if Lucci truly reacted to G5 in certain circumstances?

peed is all over the placerhat 99% of debates are straight garbage and omit information or throwout basic logic that reaction speeds can be faster that travel and attack speed, zoros ASwws faster than Lucci while even being snuck so his reaction and attack both worked there.
Alright, I came here to debate with you, not listen to you yapping and crying for an hour about debates being garbage lol. Take it out on those who owned you in these VS debates.

nOn cAnON..... yawn stfu already Oda has already stated in terms of power and fighting prowess whatever was shown in red for RHP equates and translates directly to canon manga..
I see, where is the proof?

Lol so you're just using some made up nonsense now, I'm sorry did I "gift" speeds to every singlena4uto character or to one Minato who has feats to back him
What feats? You are just randomly gifting him LS because he owned Ay, you confusing rambling old man.

Lol I was all over OJ vs i created a majority of the debates there I don't remember you being apart of any noteworthy debates..
I guess that's your problem. :kayneshrug:
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Plenty of other clashed with full powered WBand much stronger versions of him, should we give credit to Ace and Croc?
Croc and Ace clashed with WB's quake punch head-on?
 
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#77
It has everything to do with speed.
No lol.Or is every character with Teleport LS?The entire ability requires no timeframe.After the teleport,you move with your own speed.And Minato even needs his kunais

Like i care about his speed,his Citylevel AP aint doing shit to any Admiral.Pre-TS Franky can non sell his strongest attack
for what reason other than intangibles does any admial dogwalk hasgirama?
For having massive higher stats.Non Naruto God Tiers are physical weaklings.There's a reason they fight with constructs
 
#79
Akatsuki get low diffed by one Admiral
A single Admiral solos the verse if we remove Juubi and the last final war bits, alongside Madara and Hashirama
 
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