Controversial Akainu Is Not A Fascist, Featuring Ryokugyu

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
OK. Akainu tried to burn books.
No he hasn’t. Not once.

And even if he had, burning books is also not an exclusively fascist action. Again you seem to confuse fascism with authoritarianism, they are not the same thing.

Considering you guys are intentionally pretending the marines make the OP world safe from pirates when we've seen this really isn't the case.
You can cherry pick examples of Marine corruption, but there is no denying that the organization overall is a deterrent to pirates raping and pillaging every island they come across at their liesure.
 
No he hasn’t. Not once.

And even if he had, burning books is also not an exclusively fascist action. Again you seem to confuse fascism with authoritarianism, they are not the same thing.
The only reason buster call didn't burn the books is because the scholars threw all the books in the water. And I never actually said Akainu was a fascist in the first place. I think he's akin to one though.

You can cherry pick examples of Marine corruption, but there is no denying that the organization overall is a deterrent to pirates raping and pillaging every island they come across at their liesure.
And who protects people from the celestial dragons raping and pillaging every island they come across? Don't forget the excessive taxation that causes even more genocide like in Kuma's Island lol.

The celestial dragons view themselves as descended from gods and use the marines to strong arm every nation into paying massive taxes.

Shit man. The whole celestial dragon thing really does make the marines look like a fascist organization
 
Overusing words like fascism is why these labels lose effectiveness IRL. Being oppressive, even if extremely is not enough to define someone as a fascist or USSR would be considered a fascist country (extremely stupid considering fascism is literally anticommunism).

The truth is that we don't know enough about Akainu's beliefs, the only one is that he believe criminals = evil and must be punished/exterminated at all cost, even if there were to be massive collateral damages. I believe this is why people see Akainu as a fascist since being a law-abiding citizen and order in general is important to a fascist society. But that's the case for any authoritarian regime, and authorianism is NOT fascism.

Being in the marine is not enough to be considered a fascist either, I don't think anybody would be stupid enough to argue Garp, Smoker, Koby and Aokiji before he left are fascists.
 
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So why hasn't Akainu punished the celestial dragons who go around raping and pillaging every island they come across lol.

That's why people accuse Akainu of being a fascist. You can try to rationalize it but the marines turning a blind eye to the tenryuubito is a massive stain.
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In fact. The celestial dragons are ROUTINELY depicted as worse than any pirate lol
 
The World Nobles aren't fascists, they are far more like the old school absolute monarchists that believe in the divine right to rule. Their belief that they themselves are gods is akin to the mindset of the Pharaohs of Egypt or the Emperors of China.
 
The World Nobles aren't fascists, they are far more like the old school absolute monarchists that believe in the divine right to rule. Their belief that they themselves are gods is akin to the mindset of the Pharaohs of Egypt or the Emperors of China.
What I don't get is this knee jerk defensiveness when Akainu is called a fascist.

He has a massive overlap with fascist even if he technically isn't one.

I mean. Like I said. It's a series about pirates. There are no good guys.
 
Not really.
You have no clue.
Dude hasn’t got the first clue what fascism is but demands to be taken seriously on the topic.

He’s an imbecile.
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What I don't get is this knee jerk defensiveness when Akainu is called a fascist.

He has a massive overlap with fascist even if he technically isn't one.

I mean. Like I said. It's a series about pirates. There are no good guys.
Akainu is their manga daddy.

These are the same people that will defend Homelander and Rorschach.

They don’t actually understand the point of the characters. They’re too dumb to even try.
 
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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
The only reason buster call didn't burn the books is because the scholars threw all the books in the water.
Okay but Akainu didn’t order the Buster Call. By this logic Aokiji is also a fascist even though he was quite disturbed by the actions of the WG and of Akainu. Which clearly Oda, who describes Aokiji’s justice as “moral”, would not agree that Aokiji is a fascist. Lol

And who protects people from the celestial dragons raping and pillaging every island they come across?
You can thank Roger and Garp for that one lol. Again this is the issue when you define everyone in association with fascists as a fascist, by that logic you’re forced to call the Pirate King a fascist because he defended the Celestial Dragons from Rox.

You will say something like “Roger doesn’t have fascist beliefs”, which is you getting close to the point that beliefs are what should define association.

Overusing words like fascism is why these labels look effectiveness IRL.
This. It is ultimately the aim of fascists that people don’t understand what fascism actually is. Fascism is an obviously evil and stupid ideology, which is why fascists don’t want anyone to properly identify them, and want people labeled fascists who themselves are not fascist. Because it takes the focus off of them.

So why hasn't Akainu punished the celestial dragons who go around raping and pillaging every island they come across lol.
Why hasn’t Aokiji? Why hasn’t Garp? You could say this for any Marine regardless of how far their actual beliefs are from fascism.

Side note: why is it that I only ever see Yonko fans asking stupid questions that they can’t answer, but I never see this from any other fandom? Lol
 
Okay but Akainu didn’t order the Buster Call. By this logic Aokiji is also a fascist even though he was quite disturbed by the actions of the WG and of Akainu. Which clearly Oda, who describes Aokiji’s justice as “moral”, would not agree that Aokiji is a fascist. Lol



You can thank Roger and Garp for that one lol. Again this is the issue when you define everyone in association with fascists as a fascist, by that logic you’re forced to call the Pirate King a fascist because he defended the Celestial Dragons from Rox.

You will say something like “Roger doesn’t have fascist beliefs”, which is you getting close to the point that beliefs are what should define association.



This. It is ultimately the aim of fascists that problem don’t understand what fascism actually is. Fascism is an obviously evil and stupid ideology, which is why fascists don’t want anyone to properly identify them, and what people labeled fascists who themselves are not fascist. Because it takes the focus off of them.



Why hasn’t Aokiji? Why hasn’t Garp? You could say this for any Marine regardless of how far their actual beliefs are from fascism.

Side note: why is it that I only ever see Yonko fans asking stupid questions that they can’t answer, but I never see this from any other fandom? Lol
His only defense is to call Roger a fascist when I've explicitly stated there are no good guys in this series.

If you side with fascists, you are a fascist. If you carry water for them. You are a fascist.

It's that simple. Took Lee's mental illness a little longer than usual to show up.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
His only defense is to call Roger a fascist when I've explicitly stated there are no good guys in this series.
Which is again you deluding fascism with just evil lmfao.

Sometimes I literally don’t think Yonko fans just don’t have the mental ability to comprehend anything. Bet this dude had like a 0.3 GPA in his remedial school lol.
 
Which is again you deluding fascism with just evil lmfao.

Sometimes I literally don’t think Yonko fans just don’t have the mental ability to comprehend anything. Bet this dude had like a 0.3 GPA in his remedial school lol.
Yep there's the mental illness.

Lee I've explicitly said Akainu isn't a fascist. But I can understand why people call him that. And outlined the arguments people use.

You've been punching at the air for the last few posts.

Get some therapy. It's not healthy to obsess over people on the internet like this.
 
Which is again you deluding fascism with just evil lmfao.

Sometimes I literally don’t think Yonko fans just don’t have the mental ability to comprehend anything. Bet this dude had like a 0.3 GPA in his remedial school lol.
You are a mental midget invoking concepts beyond your comprehension and the last person to credibly question anyone’s capacity for critical thought.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Lee I've explicitly said Akainu isn't a fascist.
If you side with fascists, you are a fascist.
Have a discussion with your other personalities so all of you can be in agreement before you contradict yourself in a matter of minutes next time.

Gotta love when actual schizos accuse others of having mental illness lmfao. Next we’re going to have a thread discussing multiple personality disorder using the multiple personalities of durableschizo as an example lmfao.
 
Have a discussion with your other personalities so all of you can be in agreement before you contradict yourself in a matter of minutes next time.

Gotta love when actual schizos accuse others of having mental illness lmfao. Next we’re going to have a thread discussing multiple personality disorder using the multiple personalities of durableschizo as an example lmfao.
What I don't get is this knee jerk defensiveness when Akainu is called a fascist.

He has a massive overlap with fascist even if he technically isn't one.

I mean. Like I said. It's a series about pirates. There are no good guys.

Lee. You have genuine mental problems. You literally spent hours "debunking" Aramaki's black blade. Then when debunked called Toei full of shit. Then left the board for 3 months because a cartoon character not having a particular sword hurt you to the point you couldn't sleep.

I brought up that example to point out siding with an ideology meant...you are part of that ideology. It's not a hard concept.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Lee. You have genuine mental problems. You literally spent hours "debunking" Aramaki's black blade. Then when debunked called Toei full of shit. Then left the board for 3 months because a cartoon character not having a particular sword hurt you to the point you couldn't sleep.
And you changed the subject because I outed your multiple personalities in real time lmfao.

Challenge: Yonko fans not changing the subject when proven wrong

Difficulty level: impossible
 
And you changed the subject because I outed your multiple personalities in real time lmfao.

Challenge: Yonko fans not changing the subject when proven wrong

Difficulty level: impossible
No. You literally didn't read my posts. And kept punching air.

And then got so mad you made an entire brand new topic about this.

And besides. We are bringing up your mental illness. It's plainly visible for all to see.
 
No. You literally didn't read my posts. And kept punching air.

And then got so mad you made an entire brand new topic about this.

And besides. We are bringing up your mental illness. It's plainly visible for all to see.
There is nothing to be gained or improved arguing with someone whose stupidity knows no end.

That’s a grown ass man with a fascist manga daddy. You can’t educate him.
 
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