Controversial Akatsuki VS Imu-Sama

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#82
WsW is much faster than EL Luffy though, you seem to believe base/g2 Luffy's speed stayed static all this time when soru is obviously dependent on leg strenght. Garp's soru and pre-ts Koby soru are clearly not on the same level
WsW is probably not much faster than EL Luffy in raw speed, no. Luffy was using a df only technique thanks to his rubber body that Garp and Coby don't have access to, so the leg strength argument doesn't hold as much weight with him. If you add observation to it sure WsW should be overall more evasive.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#85
Skypiea Luffy was dodging lightning — are you also going to say that an admiral is slower than him?
Nami dodged lightning, get these inconsistent mickey mouse One Piece feats out my face. Lightning speed varies in One Piece verse.

OPtards think we should go with outliers they cherry picked instead of outliers they don't like.
 
#92
One Piece fans really got hit with a reality check with this flashback. It's been hilarious to watch these guys gas this verse up for years only to cap at city block lvl.
The sign should have been the fact that Oda was never comfortable hyping up a character for singlehandedly destroying a country. Not Kaido,Big Mom, Roja, Sakazuki etc. Even the Rocks pirates, they just "ruined" a country, instead of wiping it from the entire map.
 
#94
Based for calling the narutard out, I miss when it was commonly accepted that Jack could shitstomp the kages of every generation together
So many of them are actually fullblown Narutards when LenZu even goes as far as to argue Fujitora is slower than Pre TS G2 lol. You can't make this shit up. 😂

Sorry the majority of Naruto characters extremely struggle with lightning speed and it isn't doing it better when one of the fastest characters is about lightning speed but is it what it is. Picking some anti feats do not change what the verse is truly good at - there are just way too many characters who dealt with LS attacks in One Piece when we can say these are just inconsistencies. Just compare Nardo god tiers with OP verse and it's another story. THAT'S a mismatch, not stuff like Konan soloing Imu lol.
 

ZenZu

The only one who can beat me is me
#97
So many of them are actually fullblown Narutards when LenZu even goes as far as to argue Fujitora is slower than Pre TS G2 lol. You can't make this shit up. 😂

Sorry the majority of Naruto characters extremely struggle with lightning speed and it isn't doing it better when one of the fastest characters is about lightning speed but is it what it is. Picking some anti feats do not change what the verse is truly good at - there are just way too many characters who dealt with LS attacks in One Piece when we can say these are just inconsistencies. Just compare Nardo god tiers with OP verse and it's another story. THAT'S a mismatch, not stuff like Konan soloing Imu lol.
Most one piece characters aren't moving at lightning speed. They can react to it though, but traversing at those speeds is an entirely different discussion. This is one of the major perks of the goro goro no mi, it gives you lightning mobility.

It's the same deal with Kizaru, just cause they can react to Kizaru doesn't mean they are all able to move as fast as Kizaru, they can't.
 
#98
So many of them are actually fullblown Narutards when LenZu even goes as far as to argue Fujitora is slower than Pre TS G2 lol. You can't make this shit up. 😂

Sorry the majority of Naruto characters extremely struggle with lightning speed and it isn't doing it better when one of the fastest characters is about lightning speed but is it what it is. Picking some anti feats do not change what the verse is truly good at - there are just way too many characters who dealt with LS attacks in One Piece when we can say these are just inconsistencies. Just compare Nardo god tiers with OP verse and it's another story. THAT'S a mismatch, not stuff like Konan soloing Imu lol.
In Naruto, during the Fourth Great Ninja War, there was a part where they had to go to the battlefield immediately, and there was only one means of transportation at the speed of light. The characters were afraid of being disintegrated, but nobody talks about that
 
#99
The Naruto final war started on the smallest country in this verse and they couldn't even destroy it completely.
I'm not arguing that the Naruto verse has better DC on average then OP characters. The issue is there's a lot of characters in OP who are pirates going around in the huge world causing destruction that Oda hypes up all the time, and yet nothing as specific as a country. When Oda was hyping up Kaido, he was more comfortable saying he sunk 1 trillion battleships and survived being executed 10 trillion times, as opposed to just "he was known for destroying entire countries" Very few Naruto characters have any intention of going around blowing stuff up, in comparison. They're assassin's.
 
Most one piece characters aren't moving at lightning speed. They can react to it though, but traversing at those speeds is an entirely different discussion. This is one of the major perks of the goro goro no mi, it gives you lightning mobility.
Lightning speed is truly nothing when these characters can intercept light speed attacks. This is just objectively true. It doesn't make it better when a Pre TS villain was literally the lightning man. Luffy could deal with his speed but he had no chance against Kizaru who casually blitzed him like nothing.

Furthermore, reaction speed and CoO isn't enough if you're too slow. Fujitora would be blitzed left and right by Kizaru if this guy cannot even move as fast as Pre TS G2, both in combat and movement speed.
 
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