Current Events Alright let me get this straight when it comes to Luffy, Zoro, Kizaru, and Saturn
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It really isn't Cin lol. You're definitely the minority of thr Zoro fans on this. The main idea behind Zoro always fighting the big bad (a theme that's reoccurring with every arc it seems) always revolves around the general agenda which is Zoro > Luffy. This happens either in form of Zoro taking the final enemy or the RHM being stronger than the captain and no this definitely is not just a troll take, believe. I've been on way too many debates about this with various Zoro fans.
That doesn't stop by the Admirals though. The Gorosei being strong, stronger than the Admirals put them at the absolute Top of the OP verse and no character doesn't matter from which faction is an exception of this yet this isn't what most Zoro fans would say because their counter argument would be that Ghandi doesn't have a Black Blade and is thus below Mihawk via title.
I can't speak for every Zoro fan but the vast majority I've interacted with surely operate like I mentioned above.
there is still no prove for that. Higher rank doesn't mean higher combat ability, we've had several examples of this.
Nah this ain't it. Shanks would be pushed to at the worst High diff by the weakest Admiral and Kizaru pushes anyone and I mean anyone to extreme diff. Every C3 does.
That doesn't stop by the Admirals though. The Gorosei being strong, stronger than the Admirals put them at the absolute Top of the OP verse and no character doesn't matter from which faction is an exception of this yet this isn't what most Zoro fans would say because their counter argument would be that Ghandi doesn't have a Black Blade and is thus below Mihawk via title.
I can't speak for every Zoro fan but the vast majority I've interacted with surely operate like I mentioned above.
there is still no prove for that. Higher rank doesn't mean higher combat ability, we've had several examples of this.
Nah this ain't it. Shanks would be pushed to at the worst High diff by the weakest Admiral and Kizaru pushes anyone and I mean anyone to extreme diff. Every C3 does.
It really isn't Cin lol. You're definitely the minority of thr Zoro fans on this. The main idea behind Zoro always fighting the big bad (a theme that's reoccurring with every arc it seems) always revolves around the general agenda which is Zoro > Luffy. This happens either in form of Zoro taking the final enemy or the RHM being stronger than the captain and no this definitely is not just a troll take, believe. I've been on way too many debates about this with various Zoro fans.
That doesn't stop by the Admirals though. The Gorosei being strong, stronger than the Admirals put them at the absolute Top of the OP verse and no character doesn't matter from which faction is an exception of this yet this isn't what most Zoro fans would say because their counter argument would be that Ghandi doesn't have a Black Blade and is thus below Mihawk via title.
I can't speak for every Zoro fan but the vast majority I've interacted with surely operate like I mentioned above.
there is still no prove for that. Higher rank doesn't mean higher combat ability, we've had several examples of this.
Nah this ain't it. Shanks would be pushed to at the worst High diff by the weakest Admiral and Kizaru pushes anyone and I mean anyone to extreme diff. Every C3 does.
That doesn't stop by the Admirals though. The Gorosei being strong, stronger than the Admirals put them at the absolute Top of the OP verse and no character doesn't matter from which faction is an exception of this yet this isn't what most Zoro fans would say because their counter argument would be that Ghandi doesn't have a Black Blade and is thus below Mihawk via title.
I can't speak for every Zoro fan but the vast majority I've interacted with surely operate like I mentioned above.
there is still no prove for that. Higher rank doesn't mean higher combat ability, we've had several examples of this.
Nah this ain't it. Shanks would be pushed to at the worst High diff by the weakest Admiral and Kizaru pushes anyone and I mean anyone to extreme diff. Every C3 does.
Disagree that I'm in the minority of Zoro fans here.
From my perspective most of the Zoro fans on the Zoro vs Borsalino train think:
This really isn't about Zoro being stronger than Luffy.
Some Zoro fans believe that, but they're the small minority.
I think it's somewhat possible Gandhi is > Mihawk TBH.
If Zoro fights Gandhi after Mihawk, that would become more credible.
That said I won't bet on Gandhi > Mihawk.
As I see it:
Mihawk >= Shanks > current Admirals.
Sakazuki could be on par with Mihawk/Shanks, and the Gorosei could end up there or maybe even higher.
Though I'll concede that if Borsalino is stronger than Saturn, he'll definitely be Luffy's fight.
Yeah, this is true that it's not proven.
I was mostly highlighting that it's very plausible that Saturn is stronger than Borsalino.
The way I see it, if Saturn is a Top Tier combatant he'll be on a higher level.
If he's not, then Borsalino is stronger.
I don't see Saturn being a Top Tier that's weaker or on par with Borsalino.
To be clear I don't think Shanks stomps the Admirals.
But Aramaki's portrayal is not someone on par with Shanks/Kaido:
I am willing to give the Logias the benefit of the doubt over the new Admirals, but Borsalino not being given a higher bounty than the others makes me less sceptical.
I currently thinks Sakazuki, Mihawk, Shanks and Kaido are a level above the current 3 Admirals.
Kuzan did go extreme diff with Sakazuki preskip, but presumably Sakazuki has grown somewhat by emerging the victor of their battle.
That said if Kuzan/Borsalino are confirmed to be Awakened while the new Admirals are not, I'll bump them up in my tier list.
From my perspective most of the Zoro fans on the Zoro vs Borsalino train think:
- Luffy is stronger than Zoro
- The vice admirals are too weak to give Zoro a great fight
- It's time for Zoro to prove himself vs a Top Tier
This really isn't about Zoro being stronger than Luffy.
Some Zoro fans believe that, but they're the small minority.
I think it's somewhat possible Gandhi is > Mihawk TBH.
If Zoro fights Gandhi after Mihawk, that would become more credible.
That said I won't bet on Gandhi > Mihawk.
As I see it:
Mihawk >= Shanks > current Admirals.
Sakazuki could be on par with Mihawk/Shanks, and the Gorosei could end up there or maybe even higher.
Though I'll concede that if Borsalino is stronger than Saturn, he'll definitely be Luffy's fight.
Yeah, this is true that it's not proven.
I was mostly highlighting that it's very plausible that Saturn is stronger than Borsalino.
The way I see it, if Saturn is a Top Tier combatant he'll be on a higher level.
If he's not, then Borsalino is stronger.
I don't see Saturn being a Top Tier that's weaker or on par with Borsalino.
To be clear I don't think Shanks stomps the Admirals.
But Aramaki's portrayal is not someone on par with Shanks/Kaido:
- He was intimidated and forced to back off by Shanks
- He said that he wouldn't have come to Wano if Kaido was still around
I am willing to give the Logias the benefit of the doubt over the new Admirals, but Borsalino not being given a higher bounty than the others makes me less sceptical.
I currently thinks Sakazuki, Mihawk, Shanks and Kaido are a level above the current 3 Admirals.
Kuzan did go extreme diff with Sakazuki preskip, but presumably Sakazuki has grown somewhat by emerging the victor of their battle.
That said if Kuzan/Borsalino are confirmed to be Awakened while the new Admirals are not, I'll bump them up in my tier list.