Current Events Alright let me get this straight when it comes to Luffy, Zoro, Kizaru, and Saturn

[Extravlad]

As are both of yours.

Mine? Where did I say Kiz will lowdiff Zoro lmfao?
I think he's fighting Luffy and pushing him to high diff bar minimum

 

[Redboy776]

Oda has been hyping both luffy and zoro separatly by having them take on a gauntlet (awakened zoan, seraphims) ever since the arc started as if he is building them to beready for a big clash individualy in egghead. This isnt something that always happen unless its a major arc. Next hypetool for them are VAs before the main fight. sentomaru/kizaru/zoro while vegapunk/saturne/luffy/mother flame gonna have their own plot. Also wasnt sentomaru the same one who commented on rayleigh? lmao,zoro hater better not watch it. Regardless of the outcome kizaru will go hunt fodder again to release his frustration.

 

[Punk Rotten]

In the end of the day his only personal beef is with Akainu assuming Sabo wont be a cockblocker.

Any other name mentioned has interracted with other SHs aswell.
By your logic Luffy has to defeat every single one of them.

No, my logic is stating that they are an obstacle strength wise for him to be able to handle. And so he would be the first one to take one down or at least out show. Hasn’t been emphasized for Zoro.

 

[ShadowStyle369]

For me its simple really

There is no proof that the VAs will be stronger than a Seraph. Both feats/portrayal back up the seraphims

And i dont want zoro to struggle against someone who is weaker than a seraphim. And im damn sure oda will make zoro struggle against VA if he fights a VA cuz it satisfies his mc underdog fetish.

Yea but we know zoro isn’t a underdog when it comes to the va oda would genuinely have to have him hold back like he did with luffy and zoro vs the seraphim instead of using adv coc, also I gotta admit lol I’m pretty stuck on the idea that the seraphim will end up replacing the gorosei and eos it will be imu and the adult seraphim vs straw hats or maybe the strahats and like Kidd, law etc depending on the strength of the seraphs… they serve god in the Bible anyway can’t really see oda not making that happen lol

Edit: if oda does have zoro fight a va and handles him easily without adv coc though I won’t complain, or let’s say oda gives us a chance to see mastered Enma I’m here for that.

 

[Tai long]

DarkWitch is a clown, but he is right on the money with this thread

Could Zoro fight Kizaru? I wont deny there is a payback narrative from Sabaody, but thats nowhere enough for Lolda to change his pattern of Luffy fighting the strongest in an arc. Lolda is insecure when it comes to Luffy, he will never allow Zoro to shine brighter than his perfect boy.

If one of the 9 turns out to be a zodiac VA, I dont see the issue here for the Zoro fans. Momousagi and Chaton being admiral candidates is no joke.

DarkWitch is a clown, but he is right on the money with this thread

Could Zoro fight Kizaru? I wont deny there is a payback narrative from Sabaody, but thats nowhere enough for Lolda to change his pattern of Luffy fighting the strongest in an arc. Lolda is insecure when it comes to Luffy, he will never allow Zoro to shine brighter than his perfect boy.

If one of the 9 turns out to be a zodiac VA, I dont see the issue here for the Zoro fans. Momousagi and Chaton being admiral candidates is no joke.

You guys are always saying oda doesn’t allow zoro to shine more than luffy but has oda ever allowed sanji to shine more than zoro

 

[Cruxroux]

You guys are always saying oda doesn’t allow zoro to shine more than luffy but has oda ever allowed sanji to shine more than zoro

Sanji has whole fuckin arc dedicated to him and Sanji dream have nothing to do with being strong.
It's Zoro and Luffy dream which requires that.
These two are meant to be the strongest.

 

[Tai long]

Sanji has whole fuckin arc dedicated to him and Sanji dream have nothing to do with being strong.
It's Zoro and Luffy dream which requires that.
These two are meant to be the strongest.

Did sanji over shine luffy in his arc?

 

[Cruxroux]

Did sanji over shine luffy in his arc?

Sanji isn't deuteragonist of the show. Zoro is.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Zoro isn't deuteragonist of the show. Buggy is.

 

[Tai long]

Sanji isn't deuteragonist of the show. Zoro is.

Zoro is not. One piece has no deuterqgonist

 

[Ninjashadow0209]

Its possible that 2 or 3 Zodiac VAs are part of this group for the M3 under Luffy, though I dont see any "famous Japanese actor" resemblances in that group. Theres 8 of them including Kurouma, Chaton, and Momousagi, so itll likely be reserved under Akainu, Fuji and Ryo.

Double chin dude looks alot like Hulk Hogan.

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That's why Saturn will get control of Seraphim,and we will get Zoro vs S-hawk.

Kaku and Lucci vs S-Bear.

Sanji vs S-Shark.

 

[Albino 👑]

I was the one who said ,
1/Zoro gonna fight against Kaido
2/He would do better and show better feats when they get grouped up .
3/He will kill Kaido .
4/He will show CoC

While u :
1/ Look Zoro is fighting Apoo Hahahahah
2/ What ? Luffy just beat a YC 1 , Zoro isn't there yet and you want him to show better Feats Hahahaha
3/ Nah he won't kill Kaido, Luffy is the MC Hahahaha
4/ Zoro won't have CoC only Luffy would have it if Zoro showed it so is Sanji which won't happen .

Let me see ; I got three things right since the start ( and ur ass disappeared ) and one of them was wrong ( you started appearing ) .

Your obsession with Mihawk is truly unhealthy man.

You started your "argument" based on "Zorostans wants Kizaru only to prove Zoro > Luffy", after that "people putting Zoro on Kizaru/Luffy level is bad enough" and in the end "Gap between Mihawk to much"

In the end of the day Zoro vs Kizaru will happen. Will it be a short clash or a big one? Idk. Your Mihawk insecurities dont matter at all.

If OoT Zoro w/o PUs was able to fight on rooftop he's is capable to do more with his new PUs.

Yeah but shanks stopped kaido.

Its you who can't accept the fact that Luffy and Zoro are portrayed equals since the beginning. And why is Zoro not equal to Luffy when he's trained by someone stronger than Rayleigh?

And Oden is as strong as these admirals and Zoro is the next Oden of wano. You're just insecure if you think Zoro still can't fight these admirals.

it's likely
either Saturn isn't that strong and will be opponent of Vegapunk or if imu and Gorosei are final Villains it won't make much sense for Saturn to lose here he probably won't do any thing until he see defeat is likely and they will lose so he have no choice to fight in the end and will show his power and SHs will escape somehow

i don't think a full scale war is that likely

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oda already made another excuse with Handicapping Kizaru so he won't damage the island i don't think a full fight is likely

Saturn > Borsalino.

Saturn is Borsalino's direct superior. They are not "comparable".



Borsalino isn't a peer to Mihawk either.

Shanks has already disabused us of the notion that the admirals are on par with the strongest pirates.



That's just your dumb take though.

Your powerscaling is atrocious and you're projecting your atrocious powerscaling on others:

1. Current Zoro isn't far from Mihawk in strength
2. As Shanks demonstrated and Aramaki admitted (wrt Kaido), there is some gap between Admirals and the strongest characters in the world

If they are going to be EOS opponents, I expect the Gorosei to be even stronger than the Admirals.

I’m not individually responding to y’all

At the end of the day yes luffy and kizaru are at worst Comparable to mihawk. Just like all the admiral and emperor are. Yes buggy being the obvious exception in reality but perception wise in verse they think buggy is some top tier

Trying to zoro on their level and capable of of beating them with his current strength all the while trying to widening the gap between him and mihawk is stupid yes
Like imagine zoro beating someone at the very very worst a high diff fight for mihawk just to fight shiryu then mihawk


If the whole argument is that zoro vs kizaru doesn’t have to be a full fight with a clash…who cares?…
I don’t think anyone at all cares enough to argue against zoro and kizaru having a small clash

Like if Sanji or Jinbe or cp0 clashed with kizaru instead….who cares lol
Even if it was the weak trio that had a small clash with him somehow being able to stall him just because who cares

If zoro and kizaru clash cool

At the end of the day nobody cares about clashes at this point. If there are fights kizaru should go down.
So if y’all want zoro can stall kizaru himself for a little bit before luffy comes in and beats him. Win win

 

[Paperchampion23]

Double chin dude looks alot like Hulk Hogan.

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That's why Saturn will get control of Seraphim,and we will get Zoro vs S-hawk.

Kaku and Lucci vs S-Bear.

Sanji vs S-Shark.

Admirals and Zodiacs are specifically based off Japanese actors lol. 8 of 12 are all Japanese referenced.

 

[Punishhh]

Zoro vs Sanji this arc imo. Sanji is the ultimate Seraphim that only the gorosei can control.

 

[Kotone]

This is zoros coming out party. As oda have said, watch out for a strawhat member. So Zoro vs kizaru is confirmed.

The days of Zoro fighting equivalent opponents with Sanji are gone.

???

 

[Ice devil slayer]

when did marco "fight" an admirals? clash are not fights, dipshit

You're salty af cause Zoro can give any admirals a great fight

 

[Cinera]

Sanji isn't deuteragonist of the show. Zoro is.

Nah, Wano destroyed any notion that Zoro is the deuteragonist.

He's just another of Luffy's crewmates.

 

[Monet]

This is zoros coming out party. As oda have said, watch out for a strawhat member. So Zoro vs kizaru is confirmed.

The days of Zoro fighting equivalent opponents with Sanji are gone.

When loda said that ?

 

[Nidai_Kitetsu]

You guys are always saying oda doesn’t allow zoro to shine more than luffy but has oda ever allowed sanji to shine more than zoro

Sanji's panel time is comparable to Zoro. In fact, he got more panels during post timeskip. My main point was Oda is insecure when it comes to Luffy's popularity and Sanji can't surpass Luffy's popularity, but Zoro can.

 

[Monkey D Monkey]

I agree Luffy vs Kizaru will happen while the SHs fight the other VAs. I do think Saturn is stronger then Kizaru though.