Current Events An Admiral Is Literally Trolling the Strongest Yonko’s Strongest Form

[Monkey D. Luffy]

Hopefully this dude will actually burn his volumes and quit, one less ryotard can't hurt

Translation for those wondering.

CobraKai_Butcher#6325:
While in fact
Not at all
If Kizaru appears for more than two chapters
I'm going to burn my 103 volumes of One Piece
I don't give a damn

LOP_442:
Same here, I'm taking a break for a maximum of 2 years lol

CobraKai_Butcher#6325:
I'm not going to give my money to an incoherent guy

 

[comrade]

Luffy is trolling just as much. What has Luffy done so far in G5?
- Throwing Kizaru
- Kicking through Kizaru's range of clones with a base kick and base Haki
- Eating Kizaru's laser for lunch

No advanced forms of Haki, nor highly offensive moves.

Kizaru however used a considerable amount of his movepool:
- A high acceleration kick
- Yasakani no Magatama
- which he turned into clones
- His named sword Ama no Murakumo
- Lasers

 

[BlackLegFring]

Translation for those wondering.

CobraKai_Butcher#6325:
While in fact
Not at all
If Kizaru appears for more than two chapters
I'm going to burn my 103 volumes of One Piece
I don't give a damn

LOP_442:
Same here, I'm taking a break for a maximum of 2 years lol

CobraKai_Butcher#6325:
I'm not going to give my money to an incoherent guy

What a bonfire they must be having, lol

 

[haxxor]

Yeah he's trolling G5 which Kaidou was unable too, but instead he was a victim off

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Then you got this with Kaido

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[ZenZu]

So far Kizaru is undoubtedly superior to Kaidou against G5 in the initial stages of G5 trolling. Lets see how he looks in the later more serious stages, where Kaidou performed great all things considered.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Or he can just keep trying to go around Luffy or knock him away. That’s a better option than a drawn out fight that only wastes his time.
Even with the moment of Luffy grabbing & throwing him, he almost lost Vegapunk. It would only be much easier for that to happen if he chose to waste time with Luffy.

With Rayleigh he had subordinates that were going to capture the Strawhats anyway, so all he had to do was keep him occupied. He was alone in the dome in the current situation in contrast.

What subordinates? They got away.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

@Elder Lee Hung how come you think Luffy is currently the strongest Yonko?

Because he beat Kaido, the strongest Yonko lol

All the damage Kaido took outside of Luffy was pretty superficial and meaningless. You wouldn’t claim a rhino was heavily wounded from taking bites from kittens. Similarly Kaido took virtually no damage from anyone aside from Luffy, so Luffy beating him was all Luffy.

And by the time Luffy unlocked Gear 5, he couldn’t lose to Kaido again even with Kaido getting open hits on Luffy left and right Luffy still won. No other Yonko is beating Kaido in a 1v1, but Luffy is the guy who did that.

 

[BlackLegFring]

What subordinates? They got away.

Sentomaru and the Pacifista. They only got away because Kuma showed up to save them.
Don’t act like you’ve forgotten all this already. Come on now…

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

Because he beat Kaido, the strongest Yonko lol

All the damage Kaido took outside of Luffy was pretty superficial and meaningless. You wouldn’t claim a rhino was heavily wounded from taking bites from kittens. Similarly Kaido took virtually no damage from anyone aside from Luffy, so Luffy beating him was all Luffy.

And by the time Luffy unlocked Gear 5, he couldn’t lose to Kaido again even with Kaido getting open hits on Luffy left and right Luffy still won. No other Yonko is beating Kaido in a 1v1, but Luffy is the guy who did that.

I wouldn‘t say all other damage was meaningless ,some chip damage and some bigger internal damage from Law as example etc.

i get what you mean ,true Luffy overcame the strongest creature agree with that.

Btw you didn‘t call Kaido ,Crydo
I do see some slight Waido wank in this post

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Btw you didn‘t call Kaido ,Crydo
I do see some slight Waido wank in this post

Contrary to popular and @Fujishiro belief, I am not a Kaido downplayer lmfao. Dude was in the upper top tier range and I at least think he’d definitively beat people like Teach and Dragon for example.

But Kaido’s absolutely shit feats get ignored in favor of his better ones, and oppositely, the Admirals better feats get ignored in order to highlight their lesser ones, to a completely absurd extent

It just so happens that literally every negative point you can make about the Admirals applies 10x more to Crydo of the Bitch Pirates lol.

 

[Fujishiro]

Contrary to popular and @Fujishiro belief, I am not a Kaido downplayer lmfao.

I know you're not, you put him as top 1 sometimes in your tier list.

But Kaido’s absolutely shit feats get ignored in favor of his better ones, and oppositely, the Admirals better feats get ignored in order to highlight their lesser ones, to a completely absurd extent

I dont ignore Admiral feats. But a lot here do.

So far Kizaru is undoubtedly superior to Kaidou against G5 in the initial stages of G5 trolling.

Um, all Luffy did was spin him around and throw him away. He was doing much more to Kaido at the begining.

Luffy is trying to BFR/Keep Kizaru away whereas against Kaido he was fighting him to beat him.

You literally cannot compare this.

 

[Djordje]

It's funny how Kizaru does not even consider G5 Luffy as major threat and just sends his clones instead of fighting directly. Those clones manage to damage Luffu with light sword and even make him run for his life.

Afraid to think what Akainu would be able to do later in story.

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

Contrary to popular and @Fujishiro belief, I am not a Kaido downplayer lmfao. Dude was in the upper top tier range and I at least think he’d definitively beat people like Teach and Dragon for example

i know ,some of you guys aren‘t die hard downplayers,read some examples a couple times by now ,you bait and trool real hard at times

But Kaido’s absolutely shit feats get ignored in favor of his better ones, and oppositely, the Admirals better feats get ignored in order to highlight their lesser ones, to a completely absurd extent

That can be applied to both Admirals and Yonkos ,good feats are wanked like there is no tomorrow but bad feats kinda get "forgotten"

Kinda interested what do you consider shit feats of Kaido?
might already knew some examples you tell me

It just so happens that literally every negative point you can make about the Admirals applies 10x more to Crydo of the Bitch Pirates lol

Bitch Pirates

while we talk about shit/negative feats,what do you consider a shit feat for Admirals ?

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

Kinda interested what do you consider shit feats of Kaido?

Oh man, there’s plenty lol.
-getting stabbed by Okiku
-getting his own Bolo Breath countered by Raizo and screaming in pain from him
-getting his Bolo breath cut in half by Kinemon and his lip cut
-Lying on the ground helplessly after the scabbards beat his ass
-Failing to easily beat Oden who was never above YC1
-Getting suplexed by Kid
-getting repeatedly matched and even overwhelmed by Gearless Luffy, several times
-telling the Tobi Roppo that he believed one of them could capture Yamato, confirming that capturing Yamato would only give that Tobi Roppo the right to challenge an All Star, and then failing to low diff Yamato lol
-Not awakening
-failing to beat base Homieless Big Job
-Screaming in pain from Momonosuke’s bite and then failing to Bolo Blast Momo’s 2KM king Dragon body at point blank range

And the list goes on.

while we talk about shit/negative feats,what do you consider a shit feat for Admirals ?

That’s the thing, I don’t think any Admiral’s lesser feats are as bad as Kaido’s lesser feats. I think if you actually know how to read and properly examine the Admirals’ lesser feats, it’s still painfully apparent that they are top tiers. Whereas Kaido’s lesser feats are so shit that if he didn’t have better feats to balance it out, I would debate whether he’s even a top tier or not.

But even moments like Fujitora not beating Luffy, Kizaru not beating Rayleigh, Fujitora/Ryokugyu not defeating Karasu and Morley, are easily excusable if you actually know how to read. Meanwhile there are no excuses for Kaido’s dogshit feats other than the fact that Kaido is just a giant scrub.

 

[MarineHQ]

Luffy is trolling just as much. What has Luffy done so far in G5?
- Throwing Kizaru
- Kicking through Kizaru's range of clones with a base kick and base Haki
- Eating Kizaru's laser for lunch

No advanced forms of Haki, nor highly offensive moves.

Kizaru however used a considerable amount of his movepool:
- A high acceleration kick
- Yasakani no Magatama
- which he turned into clones
- His named sword Ama no Murakumo
- Lasers

To me it seems like Luffy has used pretty much everything in his arsenal while Kizaru has yet to show a real new move.

Luffy:
- Base + potentially aCoC
- G4 Snakeman ( there is evidence that Snakeman is only ever used with FS)
- aCoA has no visual indicator but Luffy has used it throughout since he got it.
- Gear 5 + Giant mode so inflation power of the new mode.

The only ability he has yet to showcase is aCoC while Kizaru has used all moves from pre ts with the new one being a distraction move.

Definitely looks like so far Kizaru was way more casual especially considering Luffy was sweating and huffing in Snakeman and was speed blitzed.

 

[Sentry22]

Kizaru greatest talent so far is running away from a fight.

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

@DarkestKnightofSpoilers Sorry for interrupting your conversation but this guy's been saying this "Kaidou has a lot of anti feats" stuff a lot so I wanna debunk his points rq

Oh man, there’s plenty lol.
-getting stabbed by Okiku
-getting his own Bolo Breath countered by Raizo and screaming in pain from him
-getting his Bolo breath cut in half by Kinemon and his lip cut
-Lying on the ground helplessly after the scabbards beat his ass

(Also Jozu busted Kuzan's lip and still lost, this isn't any different)

-Failing to easily beat Oden who was never above YC1

Oden has ACoA, ACoC, and Observation.
That's not something the average YC1 has, so I'd say he's at least Admiral level.
And Kaidou was considerably weaker back then than he is now.

-Getting suplexed by Kid

Alright. If you can show me one drop of blood here, I'll start considering agreeing.
Multiple drops, and I'll concede.

-getting repeatedly matched and even overwhelmed by Gearless Luffy, several times

That's nice.
Let's see base Kaidou's take on that:

-telling the Tobi Roppo that he believed one of them could capture Yamato, confirming that capturing Yamato would only give that Tobi Roppo the right to challenge an All Star, and then failing to low diff Yamato lol.

Your first sort of true point.
However, the fight still ended like this

Yamato is pretty strong, but let's not go as far to say that she was pushing Kaidou above a low mid diff.

-Not awakening
-failing to beat base Homieless Big Job
.

Literally 0 proof he doesn't have Awakening.
You say the Admirals have Awakening despite Oda never saying this, but then go to claim Kaidou doesn't?
Oda doesn't have to spoonfeed us everything.
He didn't outright say Zoro has ACoA or ACoC, yet we deduced that, for example.
Also, we don't know how much Big Mom and Kaidou tried in their fight, but it doesn't matter anyway, a battle against two Top/God Tiers obviously wouldn't be that decisive (Kuzan vs Akainu took 10 days for an actual result, Primebeard vs Roger took 3 days and they barely hurt each other, clearly 3 days isn't enough for top tiers to finish fights between eachother).

-Screaming in pain from Momonosuke’s bite and then failing to Bolo Blast Momo’s 2KM king Dragon body at point blank range

One:

No blood or bruises, Momo didn't even pierce him.
Two:

 

[Dragon777]

Luffy's greatest talent so far is getting clowned by Kizaru

Fixed

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

To me it seems like Luffy has used pretty much everything in his arsenal while Kizaru has yet to show a real new move.

Luffy:
- Base + potentially aCoC
- G4 Snakeman ( there is evidence that Snakeman is only ever used with FS)
- aCoA has no visual indicator but Luffy has used it throughout since he got it.
- Gear 5 + Giant mode so inflation power of the new mode.

The only ability he has yet to showcase is aCoC while Kizaru has used all moves from pre ts with the new one being a distraction move.

Definitely looks like so far Kizaru was way more casual especially considering Luffy was sweating and huffing in Snakeman and was speed blitzed.

He hasn't used Haki in G5 yet, so until that happens he hasn't actually gone all out.
If Kizaru can hang with G5 when he's using Advanced Haki (hang with as in he's at least on the backfoot or clashing, not like Doffy stalling G4 with his Awakening and still getting trashed when Luffy finally caught him), then he's definitely Yonko level or close to it, but for now Luffy isn't going all out or being serious

 

[Sentry22]

Fixed

I'm sure that's why he has so far failed in his mission. His boss is already getting fed up with lack of results. Luffy must be too much for him to handle.