Powers & Abilities An Explanation of The Deal With Enma

[Geo]

It's not wasted, it did something.

Zoro was not aware that it can do that, and had no control, that's why the result was unexpected. With knowledge and control, Enma will allow Zoro to use much more of his Haki to enhance his attacks.

It did something he did not want nor need hence waste.

It is more Zoro will allow the sword to draw much more haki than the other way round which is why Zoro is holding it back currently

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Lol, that’s not Enma, that’s Zoro’s clothes.

Lmfao thats not zoros sword
how wide do you think zoros sword is

clear as day theres no hardening

Yeah, just realized it after I blew the picture up and looked at it closer. I shall hold my L.

 

[HA001]

Yeah, just realized it after I blew the picture up and looked at it closer. I shall hold my L.

Zoro has yoru confirmed

 

[Geo]

Please, by all means, tell me. What color is that on the sharp edge of Enma's blade in this panel?

Does the drawing you've made show you (in your honest mind) the real width of a sword. Can't you see the actual white line which Oda has drawn?

 

[Garp the Fist]

Imagine asking a gardener to cut down a tree and he buys a bomb and destroys the coastline the tree‘s on instead, bankrupting himself in the process.

That’s what Enma forced Zoro to do.

It very much comes under the category of “waste of Haki.”

 

[Kuro Ashi]

It did something he did not want nor need hence waste.

It is more Zoro will allow the sword to draw much more haki than the other way round which is why Zoro is holding it back currently

Yeah, but my point is that it did something even if unintended. Then with knowledge and intention, it becomes an asset.

Yes. But he can only do that with Enma, it;s the only blade in the world so far that can channel such big chunks of Haki at a time out of one's body.

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Why are you being intentionally dishonest, is an attempt to shit on a character/fanbase so great thst you stoop to these levels?
Does the drawing you've made show you (in your honest mind) the real width of a sword. Can't you see the actual white line which Oda has drawn?

You were already beaten to it, and I admitted I made the mistake. Gloat, bask in the glory, do a victory dance! The honor is all yours.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Imagine asking a gardener to cut down a tree and he buys a bomb and destroys the coastline the trees on instead, bankrupting himself in the process.

That’s what Enma forced Zoro to do.

It very much comes under the category of “waste of Haki.”

What's the point of making this argument ? Is anyone arguing that he put it to good use the first time he used it ?

The argument is that it can be put to good use with knowledge and intent.

 

[Geo]

You were already beaten to it, and I admitted I made the mistake. Gloat, bask in the glory, do a victory dance! The honor is all yours.

There's no need because this was already clear before

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

There's no need because this was already clear before

I honestly just didn't pay much attention to it when the panel was so small. Noticed it after I blew it up, but was too trigger happy on the post reply button.

 

[Garp the Fist]

What's the point of making this argument ? Is anyone arguing that he put it to good use the first time he used it ?

The argument is that it can be put to good use with knowledge and intent.

You argued that Enma did not waste any Haki

It does not waste it, that was also shown on panel.

It very clearly did

 

[HA001]

Yeah, but my point is that it did something even if unintended. Then with knowledge and intention, it becomes an asset.

Yes. But he can only do that with Enma, it;s the only blade in the world so far that can channel such big chunks of Haki at a time out of one's body.

No any swordsmen can waste all their haki if they wanted thats the point they dont want to.
zoro can cut that cliff if he wanted to cut the cliff
weve seen him cut bigger
luffy doesnt have enma yet he can waste haki

 

[Geo]

Yeah, but my point is that it did something even if unintended. Then with knowledge and intention, it becomes an asset.

Yes. But he can only do that with Enma, it;s the only blade in the world so far that can channel such big chunks of Haki at a time out of one's body.

Yes but the argument you made was about waste. I agree that with training it can become an asset but doesn't change the fact that no swordsman wants their arm ending up shriveled merely from trying to cut a tree branch.

That is also true. And Shusui was also the only blade (bar Yoru) with unparalleled durability and hardness which Zoro switched out

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I honestly just didn't pay much attention to it when the panel was so small. Noticed it after I blew it up, but was too trigger happy on the post reply button.

I should apologize because I thought you were intentionally trolling or something so my bad for what I said.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

You argued that Enma did not waste any Haki



It very clearly did

There's wasting it as in "it had no effect".

And there's wasting it as "it had an unintended effect".

Enma's unique trait does something that can be put to good use.

 

[Garp the Fist]

There's wasting it as in "it had no effect".

And there's wasting it as "it had an unintended effect".

Enma's unique trait does something that can be put to good use.

Or there’s wasting it as in “you spent £4000 on something that only cost £4.”

That’s what Enma at the coast did.

 

[Geo]

And there's wasting it as "it had an unintended effect".

I think this is what everyone is saying

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

No one says it adds ryou just allows Zoro to tap into more of his own in a single slash than he would be without Enma.

That literally makes no sense. Zoro can control his Haki fine, Enma just takes more then it should.

 

[Kuro Ashi]

Or there’s wasting it as in “you spent £4000 on something that only cost £4.”

That’s what Enma at the coast did.

What's of potential value about Enma is the ability to push out so much Haki that one's whole arm would shrivel in an instant, into the blade.

We've never seen that be done with any other blade.

How one uses that Haki afterwards determines it's value in the end, and wether it was wasted or not.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

It didn't appear invisible when Enma forced Zoro to cut the coast

Ryou can be used in conjunction with Harden or without it. Sccabards and Luffy did when je took off Yamato cuff.

 

[Geo]

Ryou can be used in conjunction with Harden or without it. Sccabards and Luffy did when je took off Yamato cuff.

Yeah it can and in the case of the Scabbards we are directly told they are using it (Oden's Ryou)

However, check the panel where Enma releases Zoro's Ryou. Not only is the sword black, but his haki is also leaking. It is this same leakage shown on Dressrosa and shown with Whitebeard and Roger