I'll be plain and simple here: read. the. fucking. manga.
—Kaidou felt Oden's presence in Enma; but I guess Oda wrote that for the lulz.
—Kawamatsu explained that the soul of a fallen warrior still lives in their sword and will give their strength to the next carrier of said sword to destroy the enemies; but I guess Oda wrote that for the lulz.
—Enma went crazy the moment it "heard" Oden's daughter music; but I guess Oda wrote that for the lulz.
Nothing of the previous makes any sense unless Oden left something in Enma. So again: red. the. fucking. manga because I'm not here to deal with the dumbasses of your kind. If Oden didn't leave anything in Enma then we wouldn't have consistent references to Enma, duh, carrying something of Oden within. Cope however you want, I don't care because, unlike you, I understand what I read.
I'll be plain and simple here: read. the. fucking. manga.
—Kaidou felt Oden's presence in Enma; but I guess Oda wrote that for the lulz.
—Kawamatsu explained that the soul of a fallen warrior still lives in their sword and will give their strength to the next carrier of said sword to destroy the enemies; but I guess Oda wrote that for the lulz.
—Enma went crazy the moment it "heard" Oden's daughter music; but I guess Oda wrote that for the lulz.
Nothing of the previous makes any sense unless Oden left something in Enma. So again: red. the. fucking. manga because I'm not here to deal with the dumbasses of your kind. If Oden didn't leave anything in Enma then we wouldn't have consistent references to Enma, duh, carrying something of Oden within. Cope however you want, I don't care because, unlike you, I understand what I read.
It's not just Kaidou noticing Enma was Oden's blade; it's Kaidou feeling Oden's presence coming from it by the time Big Mom hypes the sword as somehow abnormal (not Zoro) plus Enma reacting to Hiyori the way Oden would plus Kawamatsu explaining that fallen warriors leave part of their soul in their sword and how this can strenghten its next weilder in a fight.
Whether it's haki or whatever is up to Oda; but the undeniable fact here is that Enma isn't just a piece of iron but has something of Oden, whatever it is, left in it. Believing the contrary is factually dishonest and ignores manga facts on this topic.
It's not just Kaidou noticing Enma was Oden's blade; it's Kaidou feeling Oden's presence coming from it by the time Big Mom hypes the sword as somehow abnormal (not Zoro) plus Enma reacting to Hiyori the way Oden would plus Kawamatsu explaining that fallen warriors leave part of their soul in their sword and how this can strenghten its next weilder.
Whether it's haki or whatever is up to Oda; but the undeniable fact here is that Enma isn't just a piece of iron but has something of Oden, whatever it is, left in it. Believing the contrary is factually dishonest and ignores manga facts on this topic.
Enma was not reacting to Hiyori shamisen, Zoro did he was the one who heard the shamisen from miles away. Enma reacted because he lost concentration for that single moment again i don't see how this is relevant to mention or helps zoro in any way. Sabo could feel Ace presence or will withing the mera mera no mi so this isn't something unique to enma. It just proves strong people are capable of leaving some of their presence within swords or df after long time. Shusui wasn't just piece of iron either it had it's own unique ability and personality even Zoro Sandai his weakest blade is the same why are you mentioning this like it's something new lol.
Kawamatsu speech about swords strengthening users spirit doesn't mean they get magical abilities from those swords
Enma was not reacting to Hiyori shamisen, Zoro did he was the one who heard the shamisen from miles away. Enma reacted because he lost concentration for that single moment again i don't see how this is relevant to mention or helps zoro in any way. Sabo could feel Ace presence or will withing the mera mera no mi so this isn't something unique to enma. It just proves strong people are capable of leaving some of their presence within swords or df after long time. Shusui wasn't just piece of iron either it had it's own unique ability and personality even Zoro Sandai his weakest blade is the same why are you mentioning this like it's something new lol.
Kawamatsu speech about swords strengthening users spirit doesn't mean they get magical abilities from those swords
If Zoro lost concentration he wouldn't be asking Enma who gave it permision to go crazy because he'd be aware it was his own fault (the way he has done many times before); Enma just lost it the moment Oden's favorite song started to be played, even the focus of the chapter is on Enma as Oden's beloved sword; not only that, but Enma stays out of control even after Zoro supposedly regained his concentration because, as I said, whatever Oden left in it was going crazy because of Hiyori.
And I'm not mentioning it like it's something new, "lol". I'm saying that Kaidou felt Oden's presence, that Enma clearly reacted to Hiyori playing Oden's favorite song and this made it lose control even after Zoro tried to regain it, and that Kawamatsu explained that, in fact, the soul that a fallen swordsman left on his sword will give strength to its next user (which, by the way, isn't brought up by Sabo; so don't get fallacious on me because I'm talking about swords and what we factually know about them, which isn't about devil fruits nor even incompatible with Sabo's words as two separate events of animism).
Swords are "alive", can carry the presence of their previous user and ALSO this piece of soul left by said fallen user will give the next weilder strength. These are facts stated in manga; ignoring them will only make you sound dishonest.
If Zoro lost concentration he wouldn't be asking Enma who gave it permision to go crazy because he'd be aware it was his own fault (the way he has done many times before); Enma just lost it the moment Oden's favorite song started to be played, even the focus of the chapter is on Enma as Oden's beloved sword; not only that, but Enma stays out of control even after Zoro supposedly regained his concentration because, as I said, whatever Oden left in it was going crazy because of Hiyori.
And I'm not mentioning it like it's something new, "lol". I'm saying that Kaidou felt Oden's presence, that Enma clearly reacted to Hiyori playing Oden's favorite song and this made it lose control even after Zoro tried to regain it, and that Kawamatsu explained that, in fact, the soul that a fallen swordsman left on his sword will give strength to its next user (which, by the way, isn't brought up by Sabo; so don't get fallacious on me because I'm talking about swords and what we factually know about them, which isn't about devil fruits nor even incompatible with Sabo's words as two separate events of animism).
Swords are "alive", can carry the presence of their previous user and ALSO this piece of soul left by said fallen user will give the next weilder strength. These are facts stated in manga; ignoring them will only make you sound dishonest.
If the shamisen hoyori was playing is reason for enma going berserk Zoro should not have been able to bring it under control as long as it was playing, yet we see Hiyori was still playing her fathers favorite song chapter after Zoro defeated king. So yeah you are wrong about enma reacting to the song, enma stayed out of control because King was not letting Zoro off and pressuring him.
I still don't see why it's worth mentioning Kaido feeling presence of Oden within Enma as that had zero impact on anything zoro achieved. i'm not getting fallacious by bringing up Sabo it's pretty much same thing yet i don't see you or any of the desperate haters using that to discredit Sabo. Devil fruits are more alive than swords will ever be, the strength that Kawamatsu mentioned was more about morale boost not literal power up or haki stored within those swords from their former users.
Why put words in my mouth? I've said plenty of times he can't use that much CoA without enma. If he can't use all that CoA he can't use koh. What does adcoc have to do with it unless you think enma controls CoC which I've never said. Y'all aren't reading but getting in you feeling because you want Zoro to do something he's never done. On the rooftop Zoro said he would put everything in his last attack against kaido. Zoro's natural limit was shown. Against king once Zoro stopped trying to control enma and let it draw out a shit ton of haki his CoA haki got drastically stronger. Zoro can not do that himself he needs enma. That's why he will die if he keeps using all that haki because it's not natural and something Enma is forcing. Enma is a pu because it allows Zoro to use stronger CoA.
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1. For the last time that draining smoke effect was enma acting out because it didn't accept Zoro as it's owner. That's the entire point of chapter 1033 which you yourself brought up. Zoro didn't understand that sword so couldn't use it properly. Once enma and Zoro worked together enma didn't do it again and hasn't since.
2. Ok
3. For the last time Zoro was limiting enma and only letting it draw a certain amount of haki. Just because the effects on the sword doesn't mean he can't use the haki on his other swords. The other swords don't have haki drawing powers so why would they have aura's on them. We learned in TB with shusui if 1 of zoro's swords are stronger than the other that will throw off his attacks and engulf the other swords slashes. That never happened with enma and zoro's attacks they were all still balanced. The week before onigashima raid Zoro training was likely to get to that point of balancing his haki so enma wasn't overpowering his other swords .
4. Again you are not reading the manga. Zoro didn't give enma the haki it wanted which is why it was randomly forcing out a bunch of haki. How can you in your own words say Zoro learned the lesson to not hold back both then say he was giving enma enough haki before? He wasn't which is why he didn't have that insane haki on the rooftop because he wasn't letting enma draw as much haki as it wanted. Even Zoro himself said he was lacking. Forget arguing against me are you going to say Zoro is wrong about zoro's own abilities?
5. It has been shown because when enma was introduced it was stated it forced out haki of people that would turn them into husks and kill some. Even if your haki isn't good enma still forces out a lot of haki past your limit which is why it would kill Zoro if he kept fighting using that much CoA haki as it was past his limit.
- when did I ever say any 1 sword attack without enma would be shit? Go re read what I posted and where did I say that. If you can't show it apologize for lying. You are the one that keeps bringing stuff up and moving the goal post like talking about 1 sword style for no reason when it doesn't matter to enma being a pu.
6. Dude you aren't even trying to understand. The point is CURRENTLY Zoro needs enma to reach haki limit 15. We know for a fact by Zoro himself that on the rooftop that was his limit and his CoA wasn't as strong as with king. What's the difference between when he went all out vs kaido and when he went all out vs king? One he let enma draw as much haki as it wanted and the other he was still trying to contain the amount of haki enma took. This is common sense if you stop trying to put what you want in the manga and just read what happened. It's not to say zoro can't reach that level of CoA naturally in the future without needing enma just that he does now which is why enma is a pu. No kitetsu and wado don't lose relevance as swords enma power is just makes Zoro that much stronger. Just like shusui before enma made Zoro that much stronger not that the other blades were irrelevant. Like I asked before which you didn't answer when has Zoro ever gotten a new sword and it not be a pu? That has always been the case for Zoro literally since childhood with wado.
-Again you bring up something irrelevant Oden already mastered enma and had some of the strongest CoA ever. Zoro is not Oden last time I checked. With current Zoro yea if you subbed enma for a random Great grade sword he'd be weaker because he loses enma over draw effect. Oden wouldn't get weaker because his CoA was already naturally that high. It's not nonsense it's understanding basic logic. If you replace enma with a sword just as good ( great grade blade) but it doesn't have the haki over draw effect Zoro is losing a power why wouldn't he get weaker? Enma for the last time is a pu because it allows Zoro access to more powerful CoA to the point it can make a green aura.
1 After Zoro gave her the right amount of haki, Emma obeyed him (the whole fight on the roof). And the frame that I threw in chapter 1033, before mastering acoc. Zoro himself said that he did not give enough haki, did not meet her standards. He overcame this psychological limit and gave everything to all blades(although at the moment of reflection he was already giving Enma enough). Here is a frame confirming this. On it, Zoro ALREADY gives enma the right amount of haki, on the next frame he gives EVERYTHING he has to all the blades and acoc.
2 approx. 3 first of all, half of the message is a hedcanon. I mean, why are there auras on other swords? After 1033, Zoro literally covered all three swords with haki's "aura". If (in your opinion) he could do it at any moment, why didn't he do it on the roof, but did it against King? Maybe it's logical that the master of the three swords would have covered all the blades up to 1033 chapters if he could (according to the manga, he couldn't, because he was afraid to die). This whole situation with enma was his psychological overcoming of this barrier with the risk of death, and thanks to overcoming, he awakened acoc, it's a pity that you didn't understand this. 4 He literally said on the roof that he would give everything he had in the last attack. On the roof, he gave Enma enough and she didn't bother him. With King, he didn't give enough and Enma freaked out. Here he realized that he was giving little and began to give enough along the way reasoning.
Zoro was not mistaken about his own abilities, he realized that he did not give enough (in a fight with king), which he himself said. 5 The blacksmith said that Enma takes more than he needs (and not more than a swordsman can). I repeat, Luffy uses haki in excess of the norm in 4gir and lies for 10 minutes unable to use this haki. Let's say Zoro has 1000 units of haki, enma requires 10 units per second to work. Zoro has 100 seconds before his haki runs out, but who told you that the swordsman himself can't give out these 10 haki units on his own. The essence of the enma is that if the swordsman gives out 5 units, and not 10, she will go berserk and start sucking so much that the hand will dry up. But from your words, it turns out that the style of one sword (except Enma) will be shit compared to the style of one sword with Enma. After all, according to your words, it turns out that if there is no enma, there is no regime of the king of hell. 6 Again, a bunch of hedkanon.... On the roof, Zoro said that it was necessary to unwind enma and lo and behold, haki smoke appeared on it and there were no problems with a dry hand. On the roof, Zoro allowed Enma to suck out the amount of haki she needed and everything was fine. He didn't do that in the fight with King(because Oda played this scene badly) and enma freaked out. Yes, Oda is an idiot, because Enma did not cause problems on the roof and Zoro gave her enough haki (haki smoke and his words when attacking Ashura that he gives all the leftovers in this attack), and she delivered with King because she did not give enough. And the full understanding of the essence of enma came to him only in this scene
Its essence is to give her enough, everything). About the fact that you are burning, that enma allows you to pull out more haki than the swordsman himself is nonsense about which there is not a word in the manga. In fact, you came up with a whole hedcanon scheme like a Root beer in which. 1 Enma releases haki (conditionally 100 units). 2 A swordsman can distribute these 100 haki pieces as he likes. 3 Zoro throws them between three swords. 4 And can adjust. 5 Zoro must hold Enma, otherwise he will not be able to give out all his power with other blades in the style of a single sword. Like in Naruto, Enma gives access to haki (fox chakra) and Zoro already manages these volumes? That's fucked up.
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One more time. When Enma was mad, she took so much haki that she literally dried the user. But for some reason I never pulled out acoc. Until Zoro independently issued acok in all three blades, no enma pulled him out. Once again, enma does not release haki, but sucks it out through a lying hand, which is why Zoro pulled haki out of enma back. According to the idiots, the following happens. Enma sucks haki out of Zorro and the haki stream tends to the right hand which Zoro holds Enma and Zoro allows 33.3% of haki to pass into enma, and throws the remaining 66.6% from the right hand to the left hand (sandai) and the head (vado) along the level
1 After Zoro gave her the right amount of haki, Emma obeyed him (the whole fight on the roof). And the frame that I threw in chapter 1033, before mastering acoc. Zoro himself said that he did not give enough haki, did not meet her standards. He overcame this psychological limit and gave everything to all blades(although at the moment of reflection he was already giving Enma enough). Here is a frame confirming this. On it, Zoro ALREADY gives enma the right amount of haki, on the next frame he gives EVERYTHING he has to all the blades and acoc.
2 approx. 3 first of all, half of the message is a hedcanon. I mean, why are there auras on other swords? After 1033, Zoro literally covered all three swords with haki's "aura". If (in your opinion) he could do it at any moment, why didn't he do it on the roof, but did it against King? Maybe it's logical that the master of the three swords would have covered all the blades up to 1033 chapters if he could (according to the manga, he couldn't, because he was afraid to die). This whole situation with enma was his psychological overcoming of this barrier with the risk of death, and thanks to overcoming, he awakened acoc, it's a pity that you didn't understand this. 4 He literally said on the roof that he would give everything he had in the last attack. On the roof, he gave Enma enough and she didn't bother him. With King, he didn't give enough and Enma freaked out. Here he realized that he was giving little and began to give enough along the way reasoning.
Zoro was not mistaken about his own abilities, he realized that he did not give enough (in a fight with king), which he himself said. 5 The blacksmith said that Enma takes more than he needs (and not more than a swordsman can). I repeat, Luffy uses haki in excess of the norm in 4gir and lies for 10 minutes unable to use this haki. Let's say Zoro has 1000 units of haki, enma requires 10 units per second to work. Zoro has 100 seconds before his haki runs out, but who told you that the swordsman himself can't give out these 10 haki units on his own. The essence of the enma is that if the swordsman gives out 5 units, and not 10, she will go berserk and start sucking so much that the hand will dry up. But from your words, it turns out that the style of one sword (except Enma) will be shit compared to the style of one sword with Enma. After all, according to your words, it turns out that if there is no enma, there is no regime of the king of hell. 6 Again, a bunch of hedkanon.... On the roof, Zoro said that it was necessary to unwind enma and lo and behold, haki smoke appeared on it and there were no problems with a dry hand. On the roof, Zoro allowed Enma to suck out the amount of haki she needed and everything was fine. He didn't do that in the fight with King(because Oda played this scene badly) and enma freaked out. Yes, Oda is an idiot, because Enma did not cause problems on the roof and Zoro gave her enough haki (haki smoke and his words when attacking Ashura that he gives all the leftovers in this attack), and she delivered with King because she did not give enough. And the full understanding of the essence of enma came to him only in this scene
Its essence is to give her enough, everything). About the fact that you are burning, that enma allows you to pull out more haki than the swordsman himself is nonsense about which there is not a word in the manga. In fact, you came up with a whole hedcanon scheme like a Root beer in which. 1 Enma releases haki (conditionally 100 units). 2 A swordsman can distribute these 100 haki pieces as he likes. 3 Zoro throws them between three swords. 4 And can adjust. 5 Zoro must hold Enma, otherwise he will not be able to give out all his power with other blades in the style of a single sword. Like in Naruto, Enma gives access to haki (fox chakra) and Zoro already manages these volumes? That's fucked up.
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One more time. When Enma was mad, she took so much haki that she literally dried the user. But for some reason I never pulled out acoc. Until Zoro independently issued acok in all three blades, no enma pulled him out. Once again, enma does not release haki, but sucks it out through a lying hand, which is why Zoro pulled haki out of enma back. According to the idiots, the following happens. Enma sucks haki out of Zorro and the haki stream tends to the right hand which Zoro holds Enma and Zoro allows 33.3% of haki to pass into enma, and throws the remaining 66.6% from the right hand to the left hand (sandai) and the head (vado) along the level
I'm pretty sure we are both tired of making long post so I'll just limit it to something basic. On the rooftop Zoro said he went all out on his last attack and we know that the level of CoA haki Zoro used wasn't comparable to the haki his gained fighting king. If enma isn't drawing it out how does use that much haki when previously he couldn't? If Zoro doesn't have enma can he pull out that much haki and if so show where Zoro doesn't need enma to do it.
- to counter you point above which you keep trying to make no Zoro never gave enma enough which was the point of chapter 1033. how can you read that chapter and not understand when even Zoro himself says he's lacking. If Zoro was lacking by his own admission what could that possibly mean if according to you he was giving enma enough haki? If enma had enough haki it would never be a problem which is why the whole point of the chapter was to understand the sword and that it needs a welder that won't hold back haki which Zoro finally understood. If it to Zoro this chapter realize this that means Zoro was using enma wrong and couldn't possibly be giving enma enough haki if he's using enma wrong by his own words of lacking. Zoro was controlling how much haki enma let out and when he let his guard down enma lashed out and over drawn his haki. So can you please stop saying Zoro gave enma enough haki because that's literally going against the manga. Enma never had enough haki until Zoro stopped trying to limit the haki enma draws out
I agree on the account of long posts and your position is clear to me. It's obvious to me that Enma freaks out when she doesn't get enough haki and dries her hand. When he teaches enough, the aura goes, but the hand is normal and the blade does not interfere (the fight on the roof). On the roof, Zoro unknowingly fulfilled the condition required by Enme (gave enough haki) and she did not interfere with him. In the fight with King, I didn't give enough and got a dry hand. The message is obvious to me. All this is done so that Zoro would stop being afraid to use large stocks of haki. If the regime of the King of Hell depended on Enma, then only Enma would be hidden by acoc+acoa. But this is not the case. You just imagined a hedkanon in which enma releases a lot of haki (which the swordsman himself cannot) and Zoro disposes of it, which is not a word in the manga.
I agree on the account of long posts and your position is clear to me. It's obvious to me that Enma freaks out when she doesn't get enough haki and dries her hand. When he teaches enough, the aura goes, but the hand is normal and the blade does not interfere (the fight on the roof). On the roof, Zoro unknowingly fulfilled the condition required by Enme (gave enough haki) and she did not interfere with him. In the fight with King, I didn't give enough and got a dry hand. The message is obvious to me. All this is done so that Zoro would stop being afraid to use large stocks of haki. If the regime of the King of Hell depended on Enma, then only Enma would be hidden by acoc+acoa. But this is not the case. You just imagined a hedkanon in which enma releases a lot of haki (which the swordsman himself cannot) and Zoro disposes of it, which is not a word in the manga.
Again my guy Zoro did not give enma enough haki. Zoro was taming enma not letting it take to much haki which he admitted was wrong. You have to understand that just because the drawing stop doesn't mean enma was satisfied but the Zoro was stopping enma. When enma was shriveling up zoro's arm it was when zoro was least expecting it and not trying to use haki. You can't keep saying a flat out lie. The character Zoro himself admitted he was using enma wrong which is why he stopped trying to limit Emma's drawing effect. And none of this explains why he received a huge power boost to from his haki limit on the rooftop to green aura haki.
How is it head cannon enma draws alot of haki when we clearly see it. Enma draws so much haki it gives Zoro access to green aura haki. If enma can't do that again should how he got this powerful haki himself when on the rooftop admitting his limit he did not have that haki. The character literally says he's not going to stop letting his haki go out and the thing drawing it enma never again shriveled up zoro's arm. You are the one making head cannon and flat out saying that the character Zoro is wrong about his own power. Zoro has a flashback about the nature of swords understand he used enma wrong then admitted he was lacking to use enma aka not letting enma use as much haki as it wanted. Yet you are saying no Zoro is wrong about Zoro and he did give enma enough haki and he already had powerful haki where the manga shows he didn't as he couldn't show green Aura haki on the rooftop because he was using enma wrong aka not letting it draw enough haki.
Again my guy Zoro did not give enma enough haki. Zoro was taming enma not letting it take to much haki which he admitted was wrong. You have to understand that just because the drawing stop doesn't mean enma was satisfied but the Zoro was stopping enma. When enma was shriveling up zoro's arm it was when zoro was least expecting it and not trying to use haki. You can't keep saying a flat out lie. The character Zoro himself admitted he was using enma wrong which is why he stopped trying to limit Emma's drawing effect. And none of this explains why he received a huge power boost to from his haki limit on the rooftop to green aura haki.
How is it head cannon enma draws alot of haki when we clearly see it. Enma draws so much haki it gives Zoro access to green aura haki. If enma can't do that again should how he got this powerful haki himself when on the rooftop admitting his limit he did not have that haki. The character literally says he's not going to stop letting his haki go out and the thing drawing it enma never again shriveled up zoro's arm. You are the one making head cannon and flat out saying that the character Zoro is wrong about his own power. Zoro has a flashback about the nature of swords understand he used enma wrong then admitted he was lacking to use enma aka not letting enma use as much haki as it wanted. Yet you are saying no Zoro is wrong about Zoro and he did give enma enough haki and he already had powerful haki where the manga shows he didn't as he couldn't show green Aura haki on the rooftop because he was using enma wrong aka not letting it draw enough haki.
Zoro on the roof literally focused on enma and that he needed to frame her. After that, he gave her enough and everything is OK (yes, he did not understand her needs). In the fight with King, he did not give Enma the amount of haki that he gave on the roof and here is the result (dry hand). It's simple =I gave enma enough haki around her smoke and everything is OK, I didn't give it a dry hand. On the roof, Zoro really didn't understand what Enma needed, but in a fight with Kaido he gave her a lot of haki and as a result there is an aura and there is a submission of the blade. Enme does not give access to any special haki or its special volumes that are inaccessible to the user without it. It was never mentioned in the manga. Based on your inventions, you gave Enma abilities that were never stated in the manga. Access to a special green haki, access to a special volume of haki, it was invented that Zoro from enma throws his haki between three blades. Well, fuck, bro, well, stop writing your manga.
Only complete brainlets actually believed Enma made Zolo weaker lol, it makes him considerably stronger, it's a bigger amp than any other sword he was given, even Shusui.
Zoro on the roof literally focused on enma and that he needed to frame her. After that, he gave her enough and everything is OK (yes, he did not understand her needs). In the fight with King, he did not give Enma the amount of haki that he gave on the roof and here is the result (dry hand). It's simple =I gave enma enough haki around her smoke and everything is OK, I didn't give it a dry hand. On the roof, Zoro really didn't understand what Enma needed, but in a fight with Kaido he gave her a lot of haki and as a result there is an aura and there is a submission of the blade. Enme does not give access to any special haki or its special volumes that are inaccessible to the user without it. It was never mentioned in the manga. Based on your inventions, you gave Enma abilities that were never stated in the manga. Access to a special green haki, access to a special volume of haki, it was invented that Zoro from enma throws his haki between three blades. Well, fuck, bro, well, stop writing your manga.
Dude no Zoro limited enma there was never a point before he gained koh that Zoro gave enma enough haki. Again the point of chapter 1033 was that Zoro was using enma wrong and for him to be using enma wrong means he wasn't giving it enough haki. That's the only scenario as that's all enma asks is to draw as much haki as it can.
Yet again you can't explain how the stronger haki comes. If it's not enma how does Zoro just drastically increase his haki and why didn't he do that when he was on the rooftop and said he gave everything? Again you can't argue Zoro is wrong about Zoro so make it make sense. Yea enma let's Zoro access more haki than he's mastered which makes him alot stronger at the cost of his life. Show another character that uses so much haki it kills them or it's that another coincidence that just happens to also be drawn to Emma's ability.
By reading this thread I just realize that some people on this board don’t understand poetry, imagery or figure of speech. The inability of some of you to understand abstract concept is baffling.
Anyway, on topic, you can insult me as much as you want, use any derogatory terms you want, it will not change the facts that :
-Zoro’s rooftop feats are from a nerfed Zoro
-Zoro unlock AdvCoC by himself
-Enma is not a power up but a training tool
And you know and I know and everyone know that those truths will always hurt you.
If I have auto draft, a charge of $500 can go through even if I had only $400. Did the bank give me more money? No. If I'm negative $100 then I'm fucked and the only thing I can do is put more of my own money in.
Dude no Zoro limited enma there was never a point before he gained koh that Zoro gave enma enough haki. Again the point of chapter 1033 was that Zoro was using enma wrong and for him to be using enma wrong means he wasn't giving it enough haki. That's the only scenario as that's all enma asks is to draw as much haki as it can.
Yet again you can't explain how the stronger haki comes. If it's not enma how does Zoro just drastically increase his haki and why didn't he do that when he was on the rooftop and said he gave everything? Again you can't argue Zoro is wrong about Zoro so make it make sense. Yea enma let's Zoro access more haki than he's mastered which makes him alot stronger at the cost of his life. Show another character that uses so much haki it kills them or it's that another coincidence that just happens to also be drawn to Emma's ability.
1 on the Roof, Zoro gave enma enough (unknowingly) or rather allowed her to take enough. You remember that after the first hit from the kiloer on kaido, Zoro said that it was stronger to smoke enma. On the roof, he let Enma take as much as she needed. In the battle with King, he gave everything to the Blades HIMSELF. SAM. not just for one enma, but all haki three blades. That's the point. Roof =only for enma. In 1033 =ALL three blades. Therefore, its power has increased. Because he overcame his fear, he awakened acoc
Ofc it was also a PU in the manga. Its only nitpicky, discussion-addicts that want to argue for no sake.
Idek what the debate is here since conflictparties dont lay out their points properly.
Why are so many people coping nowadays?
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