Questions & Mysteries Anyone else feel like quitting manga/anime altogether after OP ends?
The Fire Dragons, the Qin 6, and the Zhao 3 have also all been explicitly been stated to all have been on similar levels of strength whereas Oda has never really made explicit strength claims about the power levels of his retarded characters.
This is because once you take the mystery away from One Piss, fans will start to realize that the series is a hollow shell of a story that literally lives and dies based on the amount of headcanon it allows it’s fans to create.
Whereas Kingdom is an ingenious masterpiece that doesn’t need to rely on withholding information from its readers to keep them coming back every week lol.
This is because once you take the mystery away from One Piss, fans will start to realize that the series is a hollow shell of a story that literally lives and dies based on the amount of headcanon it allows it’s fans to create.
Whereas Kingdom is an ingenious masterpiece that doesn’t need to rely on withholding information from its readers to keep them coming back every week lol.
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Honestly, depending on how OP ends may put me off anime and manga for life tbh.
Bleach, Naruto and Fairy Tail almost put me off permanently, especially with a combination of all 3! Imagine 30 plus years of OP being a complete disaster in the end? I'm really scared post Wano that the end might still be a tragedy for all the wrong reasons.
Although OP is the kind of series I want to end on a happy note regardless, I really want it to have a satisfying, beautiful, wonderful etc ending that is worth the extremely long, painful wait and moments like Roger finding the OP and laughing in Oden's flashback really makes me hope/believe that Oda will still get it right in the end somehow.
Given Oda himself said he restructured the story for the final saga and he clearly rushed Wano and left so many glaring mysteries/plotlines/questions, I can only hope he's prioritising what really matters right now and somehow, despite how utterly messy the story looks right now, I pray he finds a way to unite it all together, that he untangles this clusterfuck of a narrative and structure and it all comes together in the end.
It's one thing for those other series to end badly, but if One Piece did end truly badly, like they did, I'd give up, I'd be broken genuinely. I wouldn't be able to read/watch/enjoy another series again, especially long running ones and also Shonen series too.
I don't envy his situation but a lot of it is self inflicted on his part too. He's under immense pressure like never before and any other author before even. To have a story that is 25 years and still going strong, that will most likely take another 5 to end (even now I'm actually skeptical too its gonna end in 2 years unless its BRUTALLY rushed in the worst way possible like Bleach was) and thus Oda is gonna have to wait until hes at least 52 or even somewhere like 54/55 to end his magnus opus/great epic finally lol.
Given how Kaidos flashback was handled, I would be extremely upset if that happened to the rest of OP too. I want better/faster pacing but not at that extreme, especially with a lack of detail and other important information/reveals/characters etc.
To be fair though, theres still anime and manga series I love regardless of the situation with OP too. I might just stick with those, since I've not spend over my lifetime following them in mental/emotional agony and they are complete stories and I still have positive feelings, memories and such about them. It all depends on how OP ends ultimately, how this final saga is handled and thus the rest of this arc and future arcs including Elbaf.
I can really relate to this too. It can be "nostalgia" talking but honestly those series were far less ambitious and dragged out, far more complete and more fun, heartfelt, genuine, enjoyable and such imo. Like how pre TS OP was for me before it started taking itself too seriously and the completely awful timeskip happened. Post TS is gradually growing on me over time and in places, but there is still a lot I loathe about it too.
Bleach, Naruto and Fairy Tail almost put me off permanently, especially with a combination of all 3! Imagine 30 plus years of OP being a complete disaster in the end? I'm really scared post Wano that the end might still be a tragedy for all the wrong reasons.
Although OP is the kind of series I want to end on a happy note regardless, I really want it to have a satisfying, beautiful, wonderful etc ending that is worth the extremely long, painful wait and moments like Roger finding the OP and laughing in Oden's flashback really makes me hope/believe that Oda will still get it right in the end somehow.
Given Oda himself said he restructured the story for the final saga and he clearly rushed Wano and left so many glaring mysteries/plotlines/questions, I can only hope he's prioritising what really matters right now and somehow, despite how utterly messy the story looks right now, I pray he finds a way to unite it all together, that he untangles this clusterfuck of a narrative and structure and it all comes together in the end.
It's one thing for those other series to end badly, but if One Piece did end truly badly, like they did, I'd give up, I'd be broken genuinely. I wouldn't be able to read/watch/enjoy another series again, especially long running ones and also Shonen series too.
I don't envy his situation but a lot of it is self inflicted on his part too. He's under immense pressure like never before and any other author before even. To have a story that is 25 years and still going strong, that will most likely take another 5 to end (even now I'm actually skeptical too its gonna end in 2 years unless its BRUTALLY rushed in the worst way possible like Bleach was) and thus Oda is gonna have to wait until hes at least 52 or even somewhere like 54/55 to end his magnus opus/great epic finally lol.
Given how Kaidos flashback was handled, I would be extremely upset if that happened to the rest of OP too. I want better/faster pacing but not at that extreme, especially with a lack of detail and other important information/reveals/characters etc.
To be fair though, theres still anime and manga series I love regardless of the situation with OP too. I might just stick with those, since I've not spend over my lifetime following them in mental/emotional agony and they are complete stories and I still have positive feelings, memories and such about them. It all depends on how OP ends ultimately, how this final saga is handled and thus the rest of this arc and future arcs including Elbaf.
I can really relate to this too. It can be "nostalgia" talking but honestly those series were far less ambitious and dragged out, far more complete and more fun, heartfelt, genuine, enjoyable and such imo. Like how pre TS OP was for me before it started taking itself too seriously and the completely awful timeskip happened. Post TS is gradually growing on me over time and in places, but there is still a lot I loathe about it too.
This is a good way of putting it. For me personally, I can now say it like this:
In pre-TS, it felt like Luffy's adventure was part of the world. In post-TS, it feels like the world is just another part of Luffy.
And Luffy's being the Sun God permanently put down any hope of tension, because the world rotates around the sun, but not the other way around.
In pre-TS, it felt like Luffy's adventure was part of the world. In post-TS, it feels like the world is just another part of Luffy.
And Luffy's being the Sun God permanently put down any hope of tension, because the world rotates around the sun, but not the other way around.
I might no know enough the manga industry, but from what I've seen at least in the shonen genre, there is a problem of reinvention in term of narration. Too many content is falling in shonen narrative traps. The stories that I've read lack focus and consistancy.
So.. if no story really shines narratively it might be the end for the shonen genre for me. I won't stop erading manga, but I'll read other genre.
So.. if no story really shines narratively it might be the end for the shonen genre for me. I won't stop erading manga, but I'll read other genre.
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Yeah definitely for real man. Feels like they're trying to strike lucky again, capture lightning in a bottle again or w/e.
Author of JJK admitted they were a huge fan of Kubo and Bleach IIRC, same with author of MHA and Bleach/Kubo too I believe? It all makes sense, newer authors look up to previous authors/generations and try to mimic their style, success and such. Try to find success following the same path they did or so.
That era before was so good and we had no idea how truly lucky we were and missed it would be in hindsight, it was just excellence everywhere, I followed so many series and really fell in love with them. Thinking of all the series I followed back then, I feel overwhelmed just thinking about it now lol. But I see plenty of people reading/watching tons of series now even so I guess its normal, especially with younger people, not someone as old as myself especially lol.
I've felt I'm growing out of series like these recently too for sure, same with a lot of games and other stuff too even.
Author of JJK admitted they were a huge fan of Kubo and Bleach IIRC, same with author of MHA and Bleach/Kubo too I believe? It all makes sense, newer authors look up to previous authors/generations and try to mimic their style, success and such. Try to find success following the same path they did or so.
That era before was so good and we had no idea how truly lucky we were and missed it would be in hindsight, it was just excellence everywhere, I followed so many series and really fell in love with them. Thinking of all the series I followed back then, I feel overwhelmed just thinking about it now lol. But I see plenty of people reading/watching tons of series now even so I guess its normal, especially with younger people, not someone as old as myself especially lol.
I've felt I'm growing out of series like these recently too for sure, same with a lot of games and other stuff too even.
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This is a good way of putting it. For me personally, I can now say it like this:
In pre-TS, it felt like Luffy's adventure was part of the world. In post-TS, it feels like the world is just another part of Luffy.
And Luffy's being the Sun God permanently put down any hope of tension, because the world rotates around the sun, but not the other way around.
In pre-TS, it felt like Luffy's adventure was part of the world. In post-TS, it feels like the world is just another part of Luffy.
And Luffy's being the Sun God permanently put down any hope of tension, because the world rotates around the sun, but not the other way around.
:cheers:
Thats what made me really love pre-TS, that sense of adventure. I've not had that feeling post-TS except the build up to FMI, maybe Punk Hazard beginning at best and at WCI especially. Wano was such a letdown in that regard, I don't want to even talk about it but Zou was pretty nice at least! Very unique and interesting! (In before Furry jokes lmfao
)I remember, one of my biggest dreams of OP was simply to play as all the SHs that I loved, I adored them all, their chemistry, their interactions in a decent OP game. I wanted to play the Unlimited Cruise series, they looked so fun but I couldn't get OP games over here, they weren't released in the UK or even Europe for some reason? Lack of popularity/demand maybe?
Post TS, I don't feel that adventure spirit so much, it feels very lingering/faint now. Almost like a "ghost of itself" hohoho or even horohorohoro lol. The SHs for the most part, keep getting seperated for stupid reasons when they canonically spend 2 years apart and since the post TS happened, they have spent more than 2 years apart IRL for us too!
They now feel like "colleagues" rather than a crew for me, they have their bonds, but given these guys went through SO MUCH together and for each other, even RAISING HELL in the world especially against the WG themselves and declaring war on them, then were forcibly seperated for 2 years, its infuriating they're acting like they've not seen each other for a few days at most?
Oda barely shows them as a unit anymore, they have nice moments here and there post TS but they still feel very non-existent/not unified as much. We never got a successor to all the SHs vs Oars either together, the best thing we got was Supernovas vs Kaido and BM which was great and almost all of the the non-WCI SHs who didnt even meet Big Mom, immediately clowning her and not taking her seriously, just humiliating her, an unstoppable and massively feature Yonko just like that...
I ironically think the Pirate Warriors games do "fanservice" better than the series at this point, I'm enjoying the movies and games of OP more than the actual canon story! They feel like original OP for me, with the adventure elements, emphasis on dialogues and thus character interactions, goofiness without being too extreme for the most part and just having fun and staying true to what inspired them!
I've been laughing at and enjoying so many random dialogues between characters in PW, who have never met before in the main story and also new interactions for characters who have met before and know each other too.
There's such creative, fun ideas in these games and it makes me sad that spinoff material is more enjoyable than the main series itself? Film Red was pretty flawed but my god I enjoyed that SO MUCH more than Wano too! Even though Red felt dragged out and cringy in places, it was still FAR more tolerable than Wano although if Red was stretched out for 4 years, it would feel like narrative hell on earth for sure too LMAO!
I used to hate Stampede before I finally watched it properly recently and I regret giving on it before, because I really enjoyed it far more than I expected and even Bullet grew on me somehow, despite how generic/2-Dimensional his character is! One Piece version of Broly kinda for example. His backstory was fucking recycled for Kaido too! Oda wtf?!
I fucking love Film Z so much too, Strong World is bloody fantastic too, along with Film Gold imo and between that and the games, it makes me long for the One Piece I loved so much, that I feel is missing/gone these days and its easy for detractors to blame me and say the problem is with me but OP has changed a LOT and not for the better generally, its so much different now, so much more openly commercialised, flanderised, exploitative, shallow/soulless and self indulgent and I hate that so much. It "sold out".
About Gear 5, I love the design of it and the whole Toon Force aspect of it BUT I completely concur otherwise! I understand your grievancers entirely! I didn't even factor in the fact about the Sun being the most important part of our universe, the centre of it and thus the world we live in orbits around it as you said! As well as the other planets such as "Pluton" (Fuck those fools for denouncing Pluto as a planet, SMH! Shameless sizeism! ) and "Uranus" lol. Poesidon could refer to Neptune ofc and we have Neptune as Poseidons father as weird as that sounds too lol.
Piratefolk were saying the same thing about Gear 5 anyway, Toon Force is FAR too powerful and it does HEAVILY remove tension to the point it becomes inconsequential! As of many of us who grew up on those classic cartoons, with their amazing "rubberhose" animation (and Cuphead imitating that style INCREDIBLY WELL), we know how absolutely borked/broken/unfair Toon Force can be! Just gotta look at the king of all trolls, Bugs Bunny himself for overwhelming evidence ofc! Freakazoid, Animaniacs, Roadrunner and so on...Even Yugioh had Toon Force weaponised and it was BROKEN as hell, almost unstoppable as expected! (Egyptian Gods in OP incoming? *looks at Imu*)
It doesnt help Oda retconned Luffys DF after 25 years of gaslighting us about it and we're just expected to accept it and act like it was always a Mythical Zoan all along? How convenient too! Now Luffys AMAZING endurance/resilience can also be factored to not just his willpower/drive but his freaking Zoan too! Also is he in Full Zoan form in Gear 5? Hybrid? Or his previous Gears and stretching the Hybrid all along?
We've seen how Luffy is toying with Lucci and given this is the 1st canonical Awakened Zoan in the series after Luffy himself and specifically a "regular Zoan" at that too instead, hes making an awakened normie Zoan look foolish and underpowered by comparison! We've seen how relentless the awakened zoans can be at Impel Down and thus someone as powerful as Lucci should be UTTERLY TERRIFYING with an awakening especially then!
I mean I just saw Piratefolk point out recently, Kaido used his wind breath on Luffy as he was in G5, it cut his fucking body! Not only that, to Kiku, it instantly cut her arm off, after she tried to block it and was wearing armour too! So is Luffys Mythical Zoan really that powerful then? Its just not symbolically a god but literally a God?
We've also gone to Luffy no longer suffering Haki drainage from using Gear 4th at all now and thus not needing to "recharge" and being helpless somewhat, like the downside of Gear 3 BUT now he keeps aging rapidly for some weird reason? And thats his new weakness which totally isn't a recycle of similar concepts like iwth the drawbacks of Gears 3rd and 4th too? Chopper now has a downside of turning tiny and old after using Monster Point for too long apparently, like a mix of G3's and G5'ths downsides too!?
I can't make sense of this anymore, I suppose the toon force, goofiness maxed direction OP is going in matches the nonsenical insanity its become?
Sorry, another huge rant but I just had to vent lol.
"The world rotates around the Sun (God) and thus Luffy himself".
WOW Goda, could you make the Luffy worship any less insufferable please!? You're turning Luffy into the most extreme Gary Stu ever!
We still barely know anything about Garp and Dragon too as well as the Will of D,D Clan and such, so Goda help us when oda finally divulges on them too as we know Oda is gonna use them to wank off Luffy beyond what we can imagine/expect too as well!
(Flashbacks to Ichigo becoming every race in Bleach pretty much and Naruto being the fucking reincarnation of Indra or w/e, the Son of the Sage of 6 Packs I mean Paths and Naruto becoming the SO6P anyway!? Oh wait, Luffy and "Joyboy has returned"...oh what a man you are Goda!)
Sorry this is also gotten very cynical and bitter now but I just couldn't help myself! Post TS has constantly been the Luffy show and Wano took it to the most literal, narratival, incomprehensible peak/summitand thus "evolution" so far!
I was gonna talk more about the SHs and how Oda has wasted them, but god knows, if I start, the next chapter will have actually come out by then and we'll have essays upon essays here, more than we have here already ofc LMFAO!
Yeah, thats very succintly put. They rely a lot on "old tricks" and tropes, formulaic structures and thus if it aint broke dont fix it, dont rock the boat or w/e.
I have thought of just getting into more chill series like Detective Conan and Ranma (like I used to be), Gintama (which I also used to be but quit before the 1st "serious" arc 61 episodes in lol) but also stuff like Pop Team Epic, Nichijou, Kaguya Sama, Komi-san, Nagaotoro etc.
I also do tend to enjoy mystery series, especially grittier/detective ones and been meaning to fully try Monster one day too. Also love stuff like Rurouni Kenshin, Trigun, Death Parade, Death Note and such and gonna watch Cowboy Bebop and Black Lagoon FINALLY soon too!
I really miss the days of just simply enjoying the series above and others like Yu Yu Hakusho and Shaman King (which has a new anime or so now apparently?). Same with games. Growing up sucks lol.
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Honestly, I think this one of the main reasons at least why Oda suddenly said "you can start reading OP from here now (instead)!"
It almost feels like a soft reboot of the series or something. When Oda said that, people were freaking otu massively and saying Oda just called 95% fo the series so far or w/e FILLER LMFAO! That he just baited us all this time, "stretched" things out to this point and maybe this is the 5 year story he was meant to tell all along? Hahahaha!
Me right now:
Note that what I mentionned doesn't apply in anyway to One Piece who is actually reinventing the wheel of narration EACH arc. The problem is that One Piece is just one story, it can't old the entire industry on it's own shoulder.
My hero had a shot but its narration now is completely umberable. The problem is that we put too much pressure on mangaka to create their own story too young when they don't have all the tool to create a good story yet.
My hero had a shot but its narration now is completely umberable. The problem is that we put too much pressure on mangaka to create their own story too young when they don't have all the tool to create a good story yet.
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Completely agree man. I do think thats exactly what it is.
They abused the fuck out of those guys, pretty much slavery! Hearing about Togashis situation breaks my heart so much, I cant even imagine how he copes never mind him actually making a comeback after all these years and not giving up! Kubo tore his tendons and got really sick and exhausted during Bleach too, he had to take a 6 week break at one point, probably due to the tendon situation most likely, Horikoshi has been constantly suffering with major health problems, including stress and him getting extreme harassment and death threats from "fans" especially on Shitter, hasnt helped that either ofc.
I hate on and slander Oda a lot BUT he does show a lot of humility, regret and wanting to do/be better too, whether its sincere or not. HJe does seem pretty humble at times surprisingly and I do fear I'm being too hard on him at times, like my rants above for example lol.
The manga and anime industry brutally abuses/exploits/enslaves it authors, animators and such, the weekly system is far too extreme for normal people to deal with, its like crunch time in video game development but its infinite! It never stops, its just the way of "work life" for them! I remember watching a random clip of Hayao Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli and how they were struggling and working earnestly, despite their massive uphill situation , it was very eye opening and inspiring but also shows the grim reality of what they have to endure too.
All anime should be seasonal and manga should be released monthly, that would probs be for the best.
I mean Shonen Jump charges almost nothing for a monthly membership to them too, given what you get with it too, it almost feels like daylight robbery but you are the ones robbing them ironically!
Such extremely hard working, earnest mangaka are getting abused, exploited and even driven to death potentially because of that extremely unforgiving, brutal Japanese work ethic and the structure of the manga and anime industries too.
We've lost Miura and the creator of Yugioh too and I'm terrified and have been terrified for YEARS now that we may lose Oda before OP ends especially. The longer he draws this out, the more he insists on doing, the more he pushes his own luck and tempts fate, he was meant to finish in more than 2 years from now, just 2 years, thats it! Hes turning 48 this week too and was meant to be done by the time he was 50 so he can travel the world!
I am so grateful Kubo, Kishimoto, Mashima, Horikoshi and other authors are still here with us and as much as I selfishly want more content from them and to finish their stories entirely, well just Kubo and maybe Horikoshi for me actually, they NEED their rest, their temporary retirement at least and to let their bodies, heal, recover and prevent permanent damage or worse!
Rumiko Takahashi, the author of Urusei Yatsura, Inuyasha and one of my favourite series of all time Ranma 1/2, recently revealed she still works up to 21 hours a day I think! Like Oda used to do before he ended up hospitalised and provoking his extremely premature death potentially! Shes around 65 I think and she still works THIS hard?! She even defended it and acted like it was still normal! But thats the Japanese for you, the far older generation ofc especially!
https://soranews24.com/2021/06/02/manga-legend-rumiko-takahashi-reveals-her-insane-working-schedule/
12 hours of drawing through the night non-stop!
Anyone who ever thinks artists don't work hard, that it isn't immensely time consuming, body destroying and such, needs a serious wakeup call and education!
Honestly, I dont know how these mangaka put out an average of 20 page chapters A WEEK all year long! They aren't human actually, superhuman surely!
I know theres some extremely demanding jobs that even require up to 48 hour shifts, surgeries can go on for up to 72 hours at least I think and there are jobs with 14-18 hour shifts even but this is insane!
Human willpower is just utterly insane, relentless and incomprehensible, immeasurable too. Its no wonder Oda loves it so much and makes it the key element of his own series! A real reflection of himself and all the animators, authors and other people he loves and admires!
They abused the fuck out of those guys, pretty much slavery! Hearing about Togashis situation breaks my heart so much, I cant even imagine how he copes never mind him actually making a comeback after all these years and not giving up! Kubo tore his tendons and got really sick and exhausted during Bleach too, he had to take a 6 week break at one point, probably due to the tendon situation most likely, Horikoshi has been constantly suffering with major health problems, including stress and him getting extreme harassment and death threats from "fans" especially on Shitter, hasnt helped that either ofc.
I hate on and slander Oda a lot BUT he does show a lot of humility, regret and wanting to do/be better too, whether its sincere or not. HJe does seem pretty humble at times surprisingly and I do fear I'm being too hard on him at times, like my rants above for example lol.
The manga and anime industry brutally abuses/exploits/enslaves it authors, animators and such, the weekly system is far too extreme for normal people to deal with, its like crunch time in video game development but its infinite! It never stops, its just the way of "work life" for them! I remember watching a random clip of Hayao Miyazaki and Studio Ghibli and how they were struggling and working earnestly, despite their massive uphill situation , it was very eye opening and inspiring but also shows the grim reality of what they have to endure too.
All anime should be seasonal and manga should be released monthly, that would probs be for the best.
I mean Shonen Jump charges almost nothing for a monthly membership to them too, given what you get with it too, it almost feels like daylight robbery but you are the ones robbing them ironically!
Such extremely hard working, earnest mangaka are getting abused, exploited and even driven to death potentially because of that extremely unforgiving, brutal Japanese work ethic and the structure of the manga and anime industries too.
We've lost Miura and the creator of Yugioh too and I'm terrified and have been terrified for YEARS now that we may lose Oda before OP ends especially. The longer he draws this out, the more he insists on doing, the more he pushes his own luck and tempts fate, he was meant to finish in more than 2 years from now, just 2 years, thats it! Hes turning 48 this week too and was meant to be done by the time he was 50 so he can travel the world!
I am so grateful Kubo, Kishimoto, Mashima, Horikoshi and other authors are still here with us and as much as I selfishly want more content from them and to finish their stories entirely, well just Kubo and maybe Horikoshi for me actually, they NEED their rest, their temporary retirement at least and to let their bodies, heal, recover and prevent permanent damage or worse!
Rumiko Takahashi, the author of Urusei Yatsura, Inuyasha and one of my favourite series of all time Ranma 1/2, recently revealed she still works up to 21 hours a day I think! Like Oda used to do before he ended up hospitalised and provoking his extremely premature death potentially! Shes around 65 I think and she still works THIS hard?! She even defended it and acted like it was still normal! But thats the Japanese for you, the far older generation ofc especially!
https://soranews24.com/2021/06/02/manga-legend-rumiko-takahashi-reveals-her-insane-working-schedule/
12 hours of drawing through the night non-stop!
Anyone who ever thinks artists don't work hard, that it isn't immensely time consuming, body destroying and such, needs a serious wakeup call and education!
Honestly, I dont know how these mangaka put out an average of 20 page chapters A WEEK all year long! They aren't human actually, superhuman surely!
I know theres some extremely demanding jobs that even require up to 48 hour shifts, surgeries can go on for up to 72 hours at least I think and there are jobs with 14-18 hour shifts even but this is insane!
Human willpower is just utterly insane, relentless and incomprehensible, immeasurable too. Its no wonder Oda loves it so much and makes it the key element of his own series! A real reflection of himself and all the animators, authors and other people he loves and admires!
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Yeah thats very true, its a LOT of pressure on such a young and as you said inexperienced person to write basically their own epic, their own equivalenet of LOTR, GOT, Walking Dead, Star Wars or w/e. Theres other series I could mention but Im going for the most well known/obvious ofc.
Thats true, I do like Oda experiments with his arcs. I really did enjoy how different Zou and WCI were for example. Even Punk Hazard. Also arcs like Thriller Bark, Alabasta, Skypeia and such.
There is still a solid formula Oda loves to follow and abuse, damsel/princess in distress, dictator oppressing island needs to be taken down and some other stuff but for the most part, he does try to keep things fresh and interesting and he does succeed.
Its just Oda reusing some plot elements like what I mentioned along with Luffy losing multiple times, having to buy time to recharge/recover, relying on allies constantly but also getting most of the hype/credit too and so on.
One Piece does feel like the Atlas of the industry, thats true. Its burdened with carrying the future, the prosperity of not even Shonen Jump and Shuiesha even, Toei too naturally but especially the manga and anime industries and thus other series and mangaka too.
Other series are constantly put under pressure to try and match the success OP has had and lighten its burden, to share it with it but theyalso are trying to replace the majorly successful and beloved series like Bleach, Naruto and such that stood next to OP back in the day as they were running too and also DBZ and especially Dragonball too which inspired them too and many other series.
The more I think about it, the more overwhelming and complex this situation gets, gosh...
As someone who quit Dota and League, its definitely for the best in the long run! Great job on quitting! I call it Defense of the Addiction for good reason, I was addicted to it for YEARS even beyond my TF2 and L4D addictions and it fucked up my life massively. Genuinely like a hard drug or something.
:cheers:
Thats true, I do like Oda experiments with his arcs. I really did enjoy how different Zou and WCI were for example. Even Punk Hazard. Also arcs like Thriller Bark, Alabasta, Skypeia and such.
There is still a solid formula Oda loves to follow and abuse, damsel/princess in distress, dictator oppressing island needs to be taken down and some other stuff but for the most part, he does try to keep things fresh and interesting and he does succeed.
Its just Oda reusing some plot elements like what I mentioned along with Luffy losing multiple times, having to buy time to recharge/recover, relying on allies constantly but also getting most of the hype/credit too and so on.
One Piece does feel like the Atlas of the industry, thats true. Its burdened with carrying the future, the prosperity of not even Shonen Jump and Shuiesha even, Toei too naturally but especially the manga and anime industries and thus other series and mangaka too.
Other series are constantly put under pressure to try and match the success OP has had and lighten its burden, to share it with it but theyalso are trying to replace the majorly successful and beloved series like Bleach, Naruto and such that stood next to OP back in the day as they were running too and also DBZ and especially Dragonball too which inspired them too and many other series.
The more I think about it, the more overwhelming and complex this situation gets, gosh...
As someone who quit Dota and League, its definitely for the best in the long run! Great job on quitting! I call it Defense of the Addiction for good reason, I was addicted to it for YEARS even beyond my TF2 and L4D addictions and it fucked up my life massively. Genuinely like a hard drug or something.
:cheers:
