Powers & Abilities Apoo's attacks are unblockable

[ImmaIvanoM]

This panel is interesting. Both Zoro and Luffy use observations haki to tell another attack is coming

I say this is observation haki because Apoo hasn't started charging up yet. Apoo starts charging the next attack in the NEXT page.

So both Zoro and Luffy are HYPER aware in this panel. Zoro is even blocking some fodder guy behind him while focused on Apoo. YET LUFFY STILL GETS TAGGED and Zoro gets surprised.

I think this mean Apoo's attacks are unblockable. Like they can be perceived to some extent since Apoo needs to charge but when the attack happens, you cannot block it. You just have to be out of range as Apoo stated in order to not get hit.

The only other theory is you should be hypersonic to maybe dodge the attacks IF THE ATTACK IS UNIDIRECTIONAL AND SPEED OF SOUND. By this I mean Sound moves in all directions at the same time so maybe Apoo's attack also does. If that's the case then once again it can't be dodged and you have to be out of range just.

 

[Zenos7]

why cant the attack be dodged if apoos attack move like regular sound waves? Sure, sound moves in all directions, but if you can move past the sound wave attack fast enough, imo it should be dodgeable. Unless apoo can force the soundwavevs to come back to him or something, which i am not expecting at all.

But maybe dodging isnt possible and the only way is to counter it with other sound waves, i.e. my favorite matchup of brook vs apoo should happen.

 

[Pantheos]

This panel is interesting. Both Zoro and Luffy use observations haki to tell another attack is coming

I say this is observation haki because Apoo hasn't started charging up yet. Apoo starts charging the next attack in the NEXT page.

So both Zoro and Luffy are HYPER aware in this panel. Zoro is even blocking some fodder guy behind him while focused on Apoo. YET LUFFY STILL GETS TAGGED and Zoro gets surprised.

I think this mean Apoo's attacks are unblockable. Like they can be perceived to some extent since Apoo needs to charge but when the attack happens, you cannot block it. You just have to be out of range as Apoo stated in order to not get hit.

The only other theory is you should be hypersonic to maybe dodge the attacks IF THE ATTACK IS UNIDIRECTIONAL AND SPEED OF SOUND. By this I mean Sound moves in all directions at the same time so maybe Apoo's attack also does. If that's the case then once again it can't be dodged and you have to be out of range just.

Apoos attacks Need to have a direction, otherwise he would hit everything around him with the same attack, what he doesnt. And if something has a straight direction, it is possible to dodge it. The only Problem here should be the Speed of Sound. It is Pretty fast, so to dodge it seems to be difficult, but there are some Solutions for it. F.e. changing the air in a room, or block the soundwave with something in between, Maybe even some louder stuff can interfere it like clashing much metal against each other, or my favorite idea, create soundwaves with the same wave-curve to negotiate his abilitys.

 

[King7]

Can Barrier Haki block it ? Logia Admirals blocked WB's vibration

 

[Buusatan94]

If Armament is able of blocking the shockwaves created by Whitebeard or Law's spatial cutting techniques I have no reason to doubt that it can block Apoo's attacks too.

 

[mosaab]

App has a range to his abilities, like law. You just need to be fast and hyper attentive to beat him.

 

[ranady]

Can Barrier Haki block it ? Logia Admirals blocked WB's vibration

Logically it should be able to block it, because barrier haki is meant to counter/blast any kind of attack. But it's still for oda to decide lol

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This panel is interesting. Both Zoro and Luffy use observations haki to tell another attack is coming

I say this is observation haki because Apoo hasn't started charging up yet. Apoo starts charging the next attack in the NEXT page.

So both Zoro and Luffy are HYPER aware in this panel. Zoro is even blocking some fodder guy behind him while focused on Apoo. YET LUFFY STILL GETS TAGGED and Zoro gets surprised.

I think this mean Apoo's attacks are unblockable. Like they can be perceived to some extent since Apoo needs to charge but when the attack happens, you cannot block it. You just have to be out of range as Apoo stated in order to not get hit.

The only other theory is you should be hypersonic to maybe dodge the attacks IF THE ATTACK IS UNIDIRECTIONAL AND SPEED OF SOUND. By this I mean Sound moves in all directions at the same time so maybe Apoo's attack also does. If that's the case then once again it can't be dodged and you have to be out of range just.

I wonder if luffy could use FS here, because he is aware of another next apoo's attack and he looks calm

 

[Kurodiamondo]

Logically it should be able to block it, because barrier haki is meant to counter/blast any kind of attack. But it's still for oda to decide lol

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I wonder if luffy could use FS here, because he is aware of another next apoo's attack and he looks calm

I believe luffy was trying to use FS to see the attack trajectory and avoid it. But no. He didn't saw it coming

Too bad the right choice to overcome the attack is to block it with ryuo armor

 

[ranady]

I believe luffy was trying to use FS to see the attack trajectory and avoid it. But no. He didn't saw it coming

Too bad the right choice to overcome the attack is to block it with ryuo armor

You maybe right. Apoo's attack maybe is unavoidable, you cant avoid it. The only way is to blast it away before it comes to you.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Apoos attacks Need to have a direction, otherwise he would hit everything around him with the same attack, what he doesnt. And if something has a straight direction, it is possible to dodge it. The only Problem here should be the Speed of Sound. It is Pretty fast, so to dodge it seems to be difficult, but there are some Solutions for it. F.e. changing the air in a room, or block the soundwave with something in between, Maybe even some louder stuff can interfere it like clashing much metal against each other, or my favorite idea, create soundwaves with the same wave-curve to negotiate his abilitys.

If that's the case then Zoro and Luffy are massively faster than sound. They can already move faster than the human eye can see and thats already faster than sound

 

[Pantheos]

If that's the case then Zoro and Luffy are massively faster than sound. They can already move faster than the human eye can see and thats already faster than sound

Than they could dodge, when they see it coming. But thats what i think was Luffys mistake here. Even with FS, he concentrated on the attacks of apoo and didnt see where they are going or what they are. If he had concentrated on the Impact he gets, he would have been able to dodge. Kinda like Katakuri. While Katakuri was concentrated on Luffys attacks he dodged most of them, until snakeman, then he got hit, because he couldnt see where they are going. But then he changed and concentrated on the Impact he got on himself and then was able to react.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

If Armament is able of blocking the shockwaves created by Whitebeard or Law's spatial cutting techniques I have no reason to doubt that it can block Apoo's attacks too.

But Apoo seems to have blown luffy up from the inside out.

Neither Whitebeard nor law have abilities that work like that

 

[Formerly Seth]

They will be unblockable for as long as Oda needs to explain why Walmart Nen can actually block it

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

They will be unblockable for as long as Oda needs to explain why Walmart Nen can actually block it

haki isn't even related to Nen.

Nen is dragon ball z ki stuff. People just have mystical power to do whatever the fuck the plot requires

Haki is just will power that gives you very RPG stat boosts to make people superhuman

 

[Formerly Seth]

haki isn't even related to Nen.

Nen is dragon ball z ki stuff. People just have mystical power to do whatever the fuck the plot requires

Haki is just will power that gives you very RPG stat boosts to make people superhuman

Nah, Haki is poorly done Walmart Nen.

Apoo's attacks will be unblockable as long as Oda needs before he can explain why armament Haki actually can block it. This is his logic.

 

[Geo]

If that's the case then Zoro and Luffy are massively faster than sound. They can already move faster than the human eye can see and thats already faster than sound

One piece =\= real world

This panel is interesting. Both Zoro and Luffy use observations haki to tell another attack is coming

I say this is observation haki because Apoo hasn't started charging up yet. Apoo starts charging the next attack in the NEXT page.

So both Zoro and Luffy are HYPER aware in this panel. Zoro is even blocking some fodder guy behind him while focused on Apoo. YET LUFFY STILL GETS TAGGED and Zoro gets surprised.

I think this mean Apoo's attacks are unblockable. Like they can be perceived to some extent since Apoo needs to charge but when the attack happens, you cannot block it. You just have to be out of range as Apoo stated in order to not get hit.

The only other theory is you should be hypersonic to maybe dodge the attacks IF THE ATTACK IS UNIDIRECTIONAL AND SPEED OF SOUND. By this I mean Sound moves in all directions at the same time so maybe Apoo's attack also does. If that's the case then once again it can't be dodged and you have to be out of range just.

Armament haki should block the attacks

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Nah, Haki is poorly done Walmart Nen.

Apoo's attacks will be unblockable as long as Oda needs before he can explain why armament Haki actually can block it. This is his logic.

Like I said. Haki is nothing like nen. Nen is more like ki or chakra. Powers that in themselves just make anybody be able to do anything.

Haki does very specific things so its fundamentally different from all the above

Have you not watched Naruto or dragon ball? Maybe you don't see it

 

[Buusatan94]

But Apoo seems to have blown luffy up from the inside out.

Neither Whitebeard nor law have abilities that work like that

Law can also do things from the inside out or do things that completely ignore conventionnal durability and yet Coa is still able of blocking it, besides it's likely that Apoo needs his music to reach his target for his attacks to work.

 

[Formerly Seth]

Like I said. Haki is nothing like nen. Nen is more like ki or chakra. Powers that in themselves just make anybody be able to do anything.

Haki does very specific things so its fundamentally different from all the above

Have you not watched Naruto or dragon ball? Maybe you don't see it

I watched/read them. They are completely irrelevant when it comes to Haki vs Nen arguement.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

One piece =\= real world

Okay Luffy dodged an explosion that was set off while he was in the center of it IN BASE FORM. While Zoro's top speeds are comparable to faster than Gear second.

But you'll say dodging explosions isn't a faster than sound speed of because one piece =/= real world

Okay pre time skip Zoro was dodging laser beams and multiple attacks from Kuma and even managed to blitz Kuma at the end. The same Kuma who was fast enough to come in between a heated fight between Light speed man Kizaru and Rayleigh and talk to Rayleigh MID FIGHT

But again One piece =/= real world

Okay. So what if Apoo's sound waves are actually faster than sound. They are sound but are faster than sound. Since One piece =/= real world

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Law can also do things from the inside out or do things that completely ignore conventionnal durability

EG?

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I watched/read them. They are completely irrelevant when it comes to Haki vs Nen arguement.

So you read that Hisoka can make Bangee gum and Netero can make the Budhisatvah and then read that Haki can make attacks do more damage and can increase Intuition enough to make people see the future and then THEN you read Chakra can turn into demon foxes and Create meteorites and control all of time and space

You read about these there power systems doing these things and some how Nen is more similar to Haki than Chakra.

Okay