Questions & Mysteries Are Ashura and Ifrit Jambe the same manifestations of Will that will become Devil Fruits

Gaimon The Pirate

Gaimon The Pirate

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So, since the incipit of One Piece Oda or as I like to call him GODA has banged on our head how important the Will of people is.
Starting from Gol D. Roger, following with BB, the Will of D, and recent Egghead statements, seems that Fruits are none other that the Will of people in the past surviving through the fruits.
And then i started thinking, aren't Ifrit Jambe and Ashura not the same thing?
Personification of the will of Pinzoro and Sanjino, who are also fruitless?
So the question is, could their will transform into Devil Fruits?
 
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Foul Legacy

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Again Ashura is totally different what Ifrit Jambe...
Sanji was genetically modified and there's a high possiblity he got lunarian Genes as well.
Pyrokenesis is lunarians trait.

Where's ashura is something totally different.
There's no genes involved , only Will...

Both luffy and zoro cam generate flames right now.
But sanji and luffy can't output anything closer to ashura.
 
soheilhazrat

soheilhazrat

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Foul Legacy said:
Again Ashura is totally different what Ifrit Jambe...
Sanji was genetically modified and there's a high possiblity he got lunarian Genes as well.
Pyrokenesis is lunarians trait.

Where's ashura is something totally different.
There's no genes involved , only Will...

Both luffy and zoro cam generate flames right now.
But sanji and luffy can't output anything closer to ashura.
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Oda has said DJ is sanji's passion buring, his heart.
 
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Borasey79

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Asura is manifesting one's will into a complete different being: two extra heads, four more limbs.
DJ is a fire technique. A strong one, but just a technique. It's like expecting Luffy's Red Roc to become a DF.
 
Gaimon The Pirate

Gaimon The Pirate

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Borasey79 said:
Sure. But that is still haki-related, only a side we haven't seen yet.
Or do you expect the Power of Love to translate into a DF like Hancock's?
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I don't believe that feat to be haki related, otherwise people would have not reacted like they did.
Also, Sanji is not known for his armour haki.
It is said so clearly that at this point i believe it to be more of a fact than a gag.
At a certain point igniting yourself on fire, being impervious to damage and so on must be something more than a gag.
 
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Borasey79

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Gaimon The Pirate said:
I don't believe that feat to be haki related, otherwise people would have not reacted like they did.
Also, Sanji is not known for his armour haki.
It is said so clearly that at this point i believe it to be more of a fact than a gag.
At a certain point igniting yourself on fire, being impervious to damage and so on must be something more than a gag.
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It is more than a gag. His emotions are so potent, as to "fire him up"--literally.
What I'm saying is, I think this is also a side of haki we have yet to explore. It's the kokoro that Vegapunk cannot write out in his creations, because it transcends science. It's what makes one oneself. The soul, if you will. Remove the body, what one remains is this expression of pure emotion. Haki is borne from here. I think we'll explore this concept with Brook, Zoro's reaper, and/or both.
 
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Herrera95

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soheilhazrat said:
Aokiji stomps ray
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Old decrepit second hand violin and virgin vs ice man (like top gun) 4 meters tall lazy turbo chad
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Virginia

:gokulaugh:

He would have more children than rats do if Sakky was capable of giving birth (I'm betting she is not since Rayleigh is probably banging her on a daily basis and even during Luffy training I bet he swam all the way to Sabaody just to have a quick one and then came back before Luffy wake up).
 
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