Character Discussion Are Big Mom and Kaido bad characters?

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Big Mom's backstory is amazing, but everything else about her is kind of shit. She's a big case of wasted potential, she could be a Doffy tier villain if Oda knew what to do with her.

Kaido is inconsistent, but he has some cool moments here and there. Overall, he's a meh character.... but his backstory's probably going to be good.

 

[Hanzo hattori]

No they are not and Kaido being in top 65 before seeing his flashback is a good thing + the anime watchers still gonna see his fight with the scabbards and the supernova

 

[York]

I don't care how good of a flashback Kaido gets, a good villain does not need a flashback to be good. Doflamingo was a good villain before we knew his backstory. Crocodile is a good villain and we never learned his.

 

[Kenshiro11]

Im fine with both. Big moms hunger pangs and kaidos drinking somehow makes them feel grounded and not this insurmountable obstacle.

 

[Finalbeta]

but he never has used more and the finally it's more than doffy has used him

Unfortunately :cheers:

 

[Hanzo hattori]

By the way Sengoku is not even in top 100 and we all know he is not a bad character don't take the poll seriously

 

[Jailer]

Kaido is better than BM but still not a good character, Kaido is very incoinsistent, Oda just flip flopping him, the anime may make him more consistent tho.

 

[Lifeismeh]

this poll doesn't represent the entire OP community , BM and Kaido have many fans

that being said the best part from Kaido and BM story has yet to come imo so far Oda stalling and both BM and Kaido are doing nothing significant , the part where they will shine as characters will come , once Oda is done with the build up phase

 

[Jailer]

Kaido had potential to be one of the biggest villains in the series with his build up since Punk Hazzard and his hyped introduction, perfect villain to lead the series to the ending phase, and the mentions of Wano arc over and over, the arc Oda was looking forward to draw since a long ass time.

So far I don't see really much of that.

 

[Kucing Pencuri]

Not good enough

 

[Herrera95]

So far both characters makes no sense at all. Kaido introduction was him "trying to suicide" and then finding Kid's alliance. Then we found out that Apoo betrayed them and that is the real reason Kaido was there. So Kaido never tried to suicide himself by falling from a sky island, he knew he wouldn't die and would fall near those pirates.

Kaido wants someone strong to beat him. He knows Oden was strong to do that. He also know that one of his subordinates cheated in that fight so he killed because he wanted a fair fight. So why the hell Kaido killed Oden? Why not leaving Oden alive to fight him again? And why not breaking his spirit as he is doing with Kid, Luffy etc.

 

[Jailer]

So far both characters makes no sense at all. Kaido introduction was him "trying to suicide" and then finding Kid's alliance. Then we found out that Apoo betrayed them and that is the real reason Kaido was there. So Kaido never tried to suicide himself by falling from a sky island, he knew he wouldn't die and would fall near those pirates.

Kaido wants someone strong to beat him. He knows Oden was strong to do that. He also know that one of his subordinates cheated in that fight so he killed because he wanted a fair fight. So why the hell Kaido killed Oden? Why not leaving Oden alive to fight him again? And why not breaking his spirit as he is doing with Kid, Luffy etc.

Yeah and what's with him getting ptsd when he glorifies death defining a man.

Oda just flip flops with this character saying conflicting random shit

 

[MonsterKaido]

 

[The Legend]

BigMom and Kaido shits in zoLo & milaugh at the same time so they are not bad characters

 

[Fuckthis3]

By the way Sengoku is not even in top 100 and we all know he is not a bad character don't take the poll seriously

Dont speak for everybody just for yourself lol

 

[Fn Lucci]

That poll doesn't really reflect anything except a consensus of favorites. At this point with so many characters, you can expect a few to be surprisingly low whether they're older or newer.

Arlong failed to get a top 20 spot in the first poll for which he qualified... while Johnny did. You may not like Kaido or Big Mom but don't reach, lol

 

[Fuckthis3]

Kaido good to me big mom was trash soon i saw her face

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

Polls mean nothing, most people don't even begin to understand why they like or not something and vote following empty reasonings.

Regarding the question, Big Mom isn't a bad character but she isn't the kind of character most people accept and enjoy as a villain, while Kaido is indeed terrible and wasted potential in pretty much every sense, from design to concept to personality and role.

 

[Extravlad]

Kaido is not an antagonist.

He is one massive hypetool for Luffy and Zoro.

He is only there to serve as a hypetool

Oda establishes him to be uber duper super strong so that every feat his protags have vs him is insanely hype for the readers

But he's not a good antagonist, Orochi has outdone him in term of evilness, no one cares about Kaido tbh.

 

[Fuckthis3]

Polls mean nothing, most people don't even begin to understand why they like or not something and vote following empty reasonings.

Regarding the question, Big Mom isn't a bad character but she isn't the kind of character most people accept and enjoy as a villain, while Kaido is indeed terrible and wasted potential in pretty much every sense, from design to concept to personality and role.

Yea i dont think they go "for some reason i like/hate this character" without context hor-kun