General & Others Are Mythical Zoans Class truly the Most rare?..

[Jailer]

Even if, I think Oda made a really big deal out of Awakening mostly from Wano onward.
Before they were very strong, but they were not a game changer.

I think he "upgraded" them as he created advCoC and CoA.

There is more to power than just a devil fruit otherwise Kuzan wouldn't be throwing punches while Kizaru using his swordplay and being pretty defensive capable of tanking strong hits which works in opposite to what his devil fruit entails

 

[Dragon777]

There is more to power than just a devil fruit otherwise Kuzan wouldn't be throwing punches while Kizaru using his swordplay and being pretty defensive capable of tanking strong hits which works in opposite to what his devil fruit entails

Surely.

There are different ways and possibilities.

 

[RyoQ]

They are difficult for other reasons

Lmao what reasons

That's right

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

Indeed, the number of revealed mythical zoans is pretty close to the revealed normal zoans already (and we still may have more, as we don't have confirmations for the Gorosei's DFs, Garling probably has one too and Shamrock's Cerberus sword is most likely a product of a mythical zoan too). As far as we know, ancient zoans are rarer than mythical zoans. Oda probably doesn't care anymore.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Difference is that the climate transforming effect likely took place as a mere side effect similar to Ace stopping the snow in Drum and GB growing hectares wide forests just by walking by. It's more likely than not just a passive that every logia fruit unlocks upon awakening and who knows what else logia awakening has in store.
On the other hand you have the strongest attacks from 2 of the by far most powerful paramecias there are, while AP/DC also is the Gura no mi's only use and while a Puncture Wille of that magnitude needs a good amount of charge up time.

And Kuri is still no logia. Oda won't give him the logia set, if he ain't one. For example he never showed an avatar form or that passive terrain transformation. Two abilities that are already canon logia abilities.

I agree that not every logia is going to have that amount of DC and power, but overall it seems like that upon awakening every logia fruit will atleast become (very) powerful.
It likely makes already busted fruits op, strong fruits busted and weak(er) fruits very strong.
You cannot say the same for the other DF classes. Most of these fruits are still ass even upon awakening.

That's the result of a ten day long battle when two of the strongest logia users, who also happened to be among the best fruit users, going at it without holding back. That ain't just a side effect.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Put Kizaru on fraudwatch for saying that mythical Zoans are rarer than Logias.

 

[L57]

Enel
Dragon
Akainu
Kuzan
Caribou
Crocodile
Kizaru
Gb
Bb
Smoker
Monet

Goofy
Yamato
Kaido
Orochi
Marco
Gyukimaru
Sengoatku
Pegasus

Yeah its way rarer

 

[Rootbeer]

Enel
Dragon
Akainu
Kuzan
Caribou
Crocodile
Kizaru
Gb
Bb
Smoker
Monet

Goofy
Yamato
Kaido
Orochi
Marco
Gyukimaru
Sengoatku
Pegasus

Yeah its way rarer

Loki, Imu(Sea God), Killingham, Forest God, Earth God..

Dragon isn't known but there's a high chance he will be a Logia..

 

[L57]

Loki, Imu(Sea God), Killingham, Forest God, Earth God..

Dragon isn't known but there's a high chance he will be a Logia..

Nothing confirmed about imu
Idk why yall keep thinking these are dfs
Its clearly imu has a different power
Killingham is not a mythical and gorosei dont have fruits

 

[Rootbeer]

Nothing confirmed about imu
Idk why yall keep thinking these are dfs
Its clearly imu has a different power
Killingham is not a mythical and gorosei dont have fruits

Doesn't matter Imu needs to have a God fruit like Luffy.. Imu is so powerful giving Yokai abilities and teleportation to people and it's not a God Devil Fruit?..

Even if you removed Killingham, there's are still 5 gods making it 13 mythical, 13 Logias, and there's the God of War.. If Loki isn't a God Devil Fruit when his powers are revealed then it adds even more Mythicals to the list..

 

[L57]

Doesn't matter Imu needs to have a God fruit like Luffy.. Imu is so powerful giving Yokai abilities and teleportation to people and it's not a God Devil Fruit?..

Even if you removed Killingham, there's are still 5 gods making it 13 mythical, 13 Logias, and there's the God of War.. If Loki isn't a God Devil Fruit when his powers are revealed then it adds even more Mythicals to the list..

Buddy its op,zoro can create 3 heads and 6 arms
Now imagine that thing imu that can grant powers and immortality which is no a df power

 

[Rootbeer]

Buddy its op,zoro can create 3 heads and 6 arms
Now imagine that thing imu that can grant powers and immortality which is no a df power

Ashura comes from Sandai Kitetsu.. He's not creating it out of nowhere.. Imu doesn't grant immortality it comes from Law's fruit the ultimate immortal surgery which Doflamingo wanted like the Gorosei..

 

[L57]

Ashura comes from Sandai Kitetsu.. He's not creating it out of nowhere.. Imu doesn't grant immortality it comes from Law's fruit the ultimate immortal surgery which Doflamingo wanted like the Gorosei..

Kaku"he can create that demigod trough sheer will"
Stop coping clown

 

[Rootbeer]

Kaku"he can create that demigod trough sheer will"
Stop coping clown

Kaku only knows what he sees in front of him, that's poor argument..

 

[L57]

Kaku only knows what he sees in front of him, that's poor argument..

Buddy as vp stated people just willing created dfs and shit
Stop coping

 

[Rootbeer]

Buddy as vp stated people just willing created dfs and shit
Stop coping

Not will, '' Wish ''.. Zoro's will isn't creating Ashura..

 

[Dragon777]

Buddy its op,zoro can create 3 heads and 6 arms
Now imagine that thing imu that can grant powers and immortality which is no a df power

Becuase It would be beyond ridicule for Oda to introduce power just like the mythicals that aren't mythicals only because of a phrase said in MF lol.

And Imu clearly is one, as Luffy Is one.

 

[Rootbeer]

Becuase It would be beyond ridicule for Oda to introduce power just like the mythicals that aren't mythicals only because of a phrase said in MF lol.

And Imu clearly is one, as Luffy Is one.

He's suggesting that Imu's power is a whole other power unrelated to Devil Fruits and Haki i think..

 

[Dragon777]

He's suggesting that Imu's power is a whole other power unrelated to Devil Fruits and Haki i think..

Imu was a "Nerona", we know basically for sure, so I find difficult to believe he didn't eat a fruit.

Also, as I said, Oda is introducing powers that are objectively just the same as mythical. If he dares to say that, idk, ten or twenty powers that work exactly like Mythicals and look like mythicals are not mythicals just because the number of fruits could not exceed Logias, he would be a laughing stock.

Imagine if we start to see people turning into earth, air, fire, but Oda says "no, those are not Logias: they are only the same as Logias". Lol

 

[Rootbeer]

Imu was a "Nerona", we know basically for sure, so I find difficult to believe he didn't eat a fruit.

Also, as I said, Oda is introducing powers that are objectively just the same as mythical. If he dares to say that, idk, ten or twenty powers that work exactly like Mythicals and look like mythicals are not mythicals just because the number of fruits could not exceed Logias, he would be a laughing stock.

Imagine if we start to see people turning into earth, air, fire, but Oda says "no, those are not Logias: they are only the same as Logias". Lol

Yeah, they are clearly devil fruits.. And Mythical..

Maybe God Fruits should have had a category of their own instead of being grouped with mythicals.. Like comic strip or something i don't know.. But it is what is..