Controversial Are you on team Yamato is a daughter.

[Herrera95]

Technically that's a bit more complicated than that. First, gender is a social construction (weither you are accepting it or not), the reason why this social construction as an impact on people (gender disphoria) is yet unknown and researched.

Gender is not social construction if I don't accept it as different from sex. Just like calling people as "they" is not correct if I don't accept.

1.Yamato is not mentally ill, lets stop with the psychophobia or this will get hitted real fast
2. Yamato knows who they are, they are just choosing to identify as Oden. So its completely different that "delusion of grandeur"

Okay so we agreed that she identifies as Oden and not a man. Therefore nothing indicates gender fluid.

And you were wrong.

She is Oden not a man. She is trying to be someone else not another gender.

Identifying as Oden or identifying as a man is pretty much the same things gender is a social construction that is linked to certains traits of expectation around gender, the traits of Oden are those of a man, in fact they are those of the "man among the men" in short, gender traits identified as those of men but to a greater degree

So by identifying as Oden, what Yamato identify as is the man among the men. In short : a man.

No is not. People identifyin as another gender are not trying to be someone else that exists or existed.

Yes it is.

No it is not.

 

[KonyaruIchi]

I'm just here for the shitshow at this point

 

[Buusatan94]

Calling yourself Oden because you're such a loony fangirl of him doesn't count. Even more for a character that isn't worth worshiping in the first place.

 

[RoronoaZorro]

Kiku is also a cross dresser just more fem
Hiyori isn't anywhere close to a tomboy

Momo's words, not mine. Yeah, her persona Komurasaki is girly & Yamato Nadeshiko, it mellows her out.

 

[Adamxero]

Indeed, that's not how gender or sex work

Uhm, yeah it actually does.

Woman can only produce eggs to be fertilised in their womb. Men can't.

That is indeed how gender works. Unless you would like to elaborate.
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Gender is not social construction if I don't accept it as different from sex. Just like calling people as "they" is not correct if I don't accept.

Okay so we agreed that she identifies as Oden and not a man. Therefore nothing indicates gender fluid.

She is Oden not a man. She is trying to be someone else not another gender.

No is not. People identifyin as another gender are not trying to be someone else that exists or existed.

No it is not.

Damn you Herrera for making me agree with you

 

[Momonosuke]

Momo's words, not mine. Yeah, her persona Komurasaki is girly & Yamato Nadeshiko, it mellows her out.

He's also 8 lol

 

[meho_meho]

There are only 2 genders which are determined by chromosomes prior to birth.

Most of the lgbtqrzfk73@%+ community lives in their own reality and have severe mental health issues.

I don't care who someone wants to be with, how they want to dress or even if they want to mutilate their own bodies to look more like the opposite gender. I do however have an issue with lying about it, it doesn't matter how many people call a banana a peach, how often they shout it at the top of their lungs, or what kind of nonsensical excuse they make for doing so. A banana is still a banana and a peach is still a peach and there's absolutely no reason to lie about it.

totally agree, but the crisis doesn't stop here, once they decide to change their gender, they do surgeries to change their genitals, inject their bodies with the opposite sex hormones, & suppress their natural hormones, which destroys their bodies & their lives, so they end up committing suicide.
& then some of these lgbtqwhatever says that "this is good education", what a joke! they should know that these trans have the highest suicide rate, most of them are having mental issues or gets fooled while they are still kids who don't know what's right & what's wrong.

 

[Momonosuke]

totally agree, but the crisis doesn't stop here, once they decide to change their gender, they do surgeries to change their genitals, inject their bodies with the opposite sex hormones, & suppress their natural hormones, which destroys their bodies & their lives, so they end up committing suicide.
& then some of these lgbtqwhatever says that "this is good education", what a joke! they should know that these trans have the highest suicide rate, most of them are having mental issues or gets fooled while they are still kids who don't know what's right & what's wrong.

Yeah teaching impressionable children that that is somehow normal or ok is horrible and letting or often urging them go through any kind of hormone treatments before they are even developed enough to comprehend their decisions is child abuse.

I'm sorry if you don't like the gender you were born as but it's best to learn early that you don't get everything you want out of life and learn how to deal with that rather than having some delusional adult who needs a safe space to be protected from dangerous words telling them that gender isn't predetermined and they can just take some pills and get some surgery if they don't like it.

Realistically the only reason a child would ever be disappointed with their gender is because of the adult influences in their life. A child has no reason to dislike who they are unless they are taught to feel that way which is what starts the whole cycle of mental health issues

 

[NikaInParis]

Yamato emulates Oden in the sense of his personality, character, and dreams. She is literally cosplaying to the extreme.

If Oden was a woman, she would still be saying "I am Kozuki Oden" because that's who she wants to be personality wise.

 

[meho_meho]

Yeah teaching impressionable children that that is somehow normal or ok is horrible and letting or often urging them go through any kind of hormone treatments before they are even developed enough to comprehend their decisions is child abuse.

I'm sorry if you don't like the gender you were born as but it's best to learn early that you don't get everything you want out of life and learn how to deal with that rather than having some delusional adult who needs a safe space to be protected from dangerous words telling them that gender isn't predetermined and they can just take some pills and get some surgery if they don't like it.

Realistically the only reason a child would ever be disappointed with their gender is because of the adult influences in their life. A child has no reason to dislike who they are unless they are taught to feel that way which is what starts the whole cycle of mental health issues

yeah I agree, & I don't know if they teach them from where they bring the genitals they wish to attach to their bodies? they don't teach them about the organ trade or the red market, or the people who got their organs stolen in China, India, USA, & other countries, they just keep saying that they can trans by doing surgery and taking pills, but they don't tell them that their bodies will be ruined.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

I think the reality is that Yamato is gender fluid

Modern day society is beyond retarded. We need a reset

 

[Albino 👑]

Whatever they want

 

[Momonosuke]

yeah I agree, & I don't know if they teach them from where they bring the genitals they wish to attach to their bodies? they don't teach them about the organ trade or the red market, or the people who got their organs stolen in China, India, USA, & other countries, they just keep saying that they can trans by doing surgery and taking pills, but they don't tell them that their bodies will be ruined.

Idk about whatever country you're in but I'm pretty sure that here they don't attach anyone else's genitals. They either cut up your outie and sew it inside out as an innie or they use artificial hormones to grow a clit into something similar to a micropenis.

 

[BlackLegFring]

For goodness’ sake, I thought this crap died down in Wano

 

[Roronoa-sama]

Kaido wanted a cool samurai like zoro

 

[Ravagerblade]

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Idc

 

[Hiragaro]

There are only 2 genders which are determined by chromosomes prior to birth.

Most of the lgbtqrzfk73@%+ community lives in their own reality and have severe mental health issues.

I don't care who someone wants to be with, how they want to dress or even if they want to mutilate their own bodies to look more like the opposite gender. I do however have an issue with lying about it, it doesn't matter how many people call a banana a peach, how often they shout it at the top of their lungs, or what kind of nonsensical excuse they make for doing so. A banana is still a banana and a peach is still a peach and there's absolutely no reason to lie about it.

A Banana and a Peach are a social construction and don't exist

 

[Mathias]

Despite all the power level wanking on this forum. When you look at the poll, you quickly understand that you joined a good place.

 

[Formerly Seth]

Modern day society is beyond retarded. We need a reset

Yup.

I see @Ravagerblade liked it. Man must be holding himself from talking about the absurds of the Twitter guy