Controversial Are you on team Yamato is a daughter.

[Herrera95]

No, that idea is not "simple", it's retrograde, there is nothing "logic" about it. You are just basing your point of view on your bias and no scientific or psychological knowledge.. Sorry dude, you need to accept reality.

I wonder what scientific or psychological knowledge that you have to justify gender is not same as sex.

Well , question then, if Yamato is imitating Oden like you say, why did they decide not to go out on the seas ?

Exactly because she was imitating Oden. Yamato herself wanted to go to sea but Oden travelled through Wano before it and so Yamato is simply imitating Oden's steps. Literally.

A failed psychologist who tries to give his thoughts on subjects that are not his: sociology/politics/militantism/religion.

A scientist alone doesn't make a consensus mate, and that's what I'm talking about here.

Listen less to youtube stars and more to actual consensus and you might have a go at understanding the fabrics of gender identities.

A failed psychologist that has a PhD and is known worldwide by his explanation on several subjects of psychological behavior. Funny you calling militantism a subject.

I agree. A scientist alone doesn't make a consensus but unlike you I gave you a scientist that I checked. You are only saying that science disagree with me but not giving any names.

And actual consensus is what woke people scream at TikTok, IG/YT Reels, college lectures while interrupting and disrepecting those who are there to learn something.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

Of course she´s his daughter, what else would she be???
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[Kishido]

IF I should get a third child I will fucking yell at the doc if he says to me with a straight face that it is a girl or a boy.

I will ask him how he can be sure and if he knows about the feelings of my baby better than his mother of himself/herself.

#metoo

 

[Logiko]

I wonder what scientific or psychological knowledge that you have to justify gender is not same as sex.

Keep wondering, you might get close to the point.

https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html

https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender#tab=tab_1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction?oldid=724769451

Exactly because she was imitating Oden. Yamato herself wanted to go to sea but Oden travelled through Wano before it and so Yamato is simply imitating Oden's steps. Literally.

Wrong, Oden was stuck on wano, staying on Wano was not his choice; Again I repeat: he was stuck, it was NOT a choice.
Yamato here is simply mentionning Oden to ease the reveal on Momo and Kinemon but the real reason can be seen in their character development.

Yamato during the entire story thoughts that there was only one solution to be free : it was to do like Oden and join the next big Pirate crew to go out to sea. That's what Yamato thought freedom was. But then, Yamato witness something: Momo who despite his age and his responsabilities, choosed to make the OPPOSITE descision of his father (and for a good reason). Then Yamato had to witness the danger that Wano was facing.

This is why Yamato choose to do the exact OPPOSITE of what their father wanted them to become; the guardian of Wano, but for good this time. in the choice, Yamato did not follow Oden. They made their a choice in the discovery that freedom doesn't only come though the sea and escapism. It first come is the freedom to make their OWN choices.

Storytelling matters.

A failed psychologist that has a PhD and is known worldwide by his explanation on several subjects of psychological behavior. Funny you calling militantism a subject.

I agree. A scientist alone doesn't make a consensus but unlike you I gave you a scientist that I checked. You are only saying that science disagree with me but not giving any names.

And actual consensus is what woke people scream at TikTok, IG/YT Reels, college lectures while interrupting and disrepecting those who are there to learn something.

DO you want me to had that the guy is transphobe and cryptofascist ? I can if you want ...

You know, the consensus is good in the way that its not me that has to provide you an answer, it's you who need to prove me that I'm wrong. That's the burden of proof. And right now, I don't have it.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO



another gender debate

 

[Logiko]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO



another gender debate

 

[Adamxero]

Trans men can and trans men ARE men. Let's not be transphobe here or this will be a report.

Reported for what stating the truth


This isn't Reddit where you can just state your opinion and then call anyone who disagrees with you a phobe or ist because you're offended then expect everyone to bow down to your opinions.

Trans-men are biologically women therefore have a womb and can therefore produce eggs so whatever you can call trans-men male and if that makes you feel good more power to you but it doesn't change that they weren't born biologically a male.

If you want to believe biology is a social construct then that's fine but that doesn't mean you're right. Yamato is by all means a woman. Female, biologically. She calls herself Oden and would do if Oden was male or female.

Looking forward to the report because I don't agree with your opinion way to win a debate

:cheers:

 

[Logiko]

Reported for what stating the truth


This isn't Reddit where you can just state your opinion and then call anyone who disagrees with you a phobe or ist because you're offended then expect everyone to bow down to your opinions.

Trans-men are biologically women therefore have a womb and can therefore produce eggs so whatever you can call trans-men male and if that makes you feel good more power to you but it doesn't change that they weren't born biologically a male.

If you want to believe biology is a social construct then that's fine but that doesn't mean you're right. Yamato is by all means a woman. Female, biologically. She calls herself Oden and would do if Oden was male or female.

Looking forward to the report because I don't agree with your opinion way to win a debate

:cheers:

Damn I admire scientists for their patience.

1. Gender is a social construction so there is no such thing as "biologically women".
2. Trans Men are men.. so men can be pregnant.
3. And biology is not a social construct. "It's like saying Cinema is food recipe" this sentence makes no sence. Biology is a field of study and social construction a process..

Looking forward to the report because I don't agree with your opinion way to win a debate

As long as you are not transphobe, we are cool mate

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

1. Gender is a social construction so there is no such thing as "biologically women".

 

[Adamxero]

Damn I admire scientists for their patience.

1. Gender is a social construction so there is no such thing as "biologically women".
2. Trans Men are men.. so men can be pregnant.
3. And biology is not a social construct. "It's like saying Cinema is food recipe" this sentence makes no sence. Biology is a field of study and social construction a process..


As long as you are not transphobe, we are cool mate

Trans-men are men is a statement based on an opinion there's no biology that will back that up. Therefore my original statement stands biological males cannot be pregnant only a biological female that calls themself a man can and again that goes back to the statement trans-men are men being an opinion.

I have no problem people having that opinion but as long as people acknowledge the biological aspect to it.

Yamato is a biological female and based on everything we have seen Yamato isn't trans and is as the Oda put it in her introduction 'The Daughter of Kaido'.

 

[Logiko]

Trans-men are men is a statement based on an opinion there's no biology that will back that up.

Dude..

https://cihr-irsc.gc.ca/e/48642.html

https://www.who.int/health-topics/gender#tab=tab_1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_and_gender_distinction?oldid=724769451

Gender =/= Sex is a scientific consensus. Now, go read some things about the subject, look at the videos of some people who are trans and we might have a discussion on the subject. In the meantime.. your opinion is meaningless.

I have no problem people having that opinion but as long as people acknowledge the biological aspect to it.

You don't know what biology means in that context bro.. stand down.

we have seen Yamato isn't trans and is as the Oda put it in her introduction 'The Daughter of Kaido'.

Indeed, I don't think Yamato is trans, I think they are genderfluid.

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

You don't know what biology means in that context bro.. stand down.

This you?

1. Gender is a social construction so there is no such thing as "biologically women".

 

[BigAmmi]

I tought Yamato was biologically woman and gender male, but after the first impression i changed my mind: it's clear that she said that ONLY because Oden was a man.

There's no problem. Oda touched the theme of gay/lesbians/trans ecc with Ivankov, Mr2, Kamabakka ecc and that was awesome, they are very well written characters

But Yamato is not including in this theme and sincerally i can't see where the problem is with that.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

But Yamato is not including in this theme and sincerally i can't see where the problem is with that.

Because it goes against Twitter's agenda

 

[Reborn]

I just want to know who are the 6 people who voted for No lol

 

[Ravagerblade]

I just want to know who are the 6 people who voted for No lol

Morons. That's all I'll say.

 

[Logiko]

This you?

Still me

I tought Yamato was biologically woman and gender male, but after the first impression i changed my mind: it's clear that she said that ONLY because Oden was a man.

There's no problem. Oda touched the theme of gay/lesbians/trans ecc with Ivankov, Mr2, Kamabakka ecc and that was awesome, they are very well written characters

But Yamato is not including in this theme and sincerally i can't see where the problem is with that.

The fact is that we don't really know about their gender, but they definitely identify at least partly as a man.

I just want to know who are the 6 people who voted for No lol

Pretty smart people I should say.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I just want to know who are the 6 people who voted for No lol

Your mom
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Indeed, I don't think Yamato is trans, I think they are genderfluid.

Or a-gender?
Idk how to distinguish agender/nonbinary/genderfluid

 

[Logiko]

Your mom
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Or a-gender?
Idk how to distinguish agender/nonbinary/genderfluid

I don't really have enough knowledge on the subject to be sure.. but she definitely mentionned becoming a man, so that's one clue after that it's up to interpretation I think.

 

[Formerly Seth]

Reported for what stating the truth


This isn't Reddit where you can just state your opinion and then call anyone who disagrees with you a phobe or ist because you're offended then expect everyone to bow down to your opinions.

Trans-men are biologically women therefore have a womb and can therefore produce eggs so whatever you can call trans-men male and if that makes you feel good more power to you but it doesn't change that they weren't born biologically a male.

If you want to believe biology is a social construct then that's fine but that doesn't mean you're right. Yamato is by all means a woman. Female, biologically. She calls herself Oden and would do if Oden was male or female.

Looking forward to the report because I don't agree with your opinion way to win a debate

:cheers:

Oh you are phobe too now? That makes a few of us who appear to have different opinion to someone.