Questions & Mysteries [Art and Discussion] Rocks Pirate Crew

[sgn15]

Hi, this is my first post in the site.

I drew God Valley incident (in progress) here

Spoiler: here is the drawing

I posted here instead of graphics section because it contains non-anime stuff so it might be spoiler to some members in that section.

Who are other members of rocks crew? Can we already confirm the general zombies in thriller bark were ouchoko and silver axe along with the captain john zombie considering moria's history with kaido? Is shakky's comment about her being chased by garp 40 years ago confirms her as well? How about weevil's mom? Dr. Kureha?

I want to draw them into this as well.

And please give feedback on the drawing as well as discuss rocks. I want to further improve/change this drawing as well.

Admins/mods, sorry if this is in wrong section.

 

[Buusatan94]

There is nothing so far that really say that Silver Axe and Ochouko are dead and that they were turned into zombies by Moria yet.

As for Ms Bakkin it's very likely that she was indeed a Rocks Pirate and that's how she met Whitebeard. Shakky may have been one of them too.

 

[Perun]

I hope that we see a double spread page of all top members of Rocks crew in Kaido's flashback,but so far we didn't even see one for the Roger pirates in Oden's flashback.Hope that in the anime we get all members shown standing together, like they did with the WBs and BMs crew

Would be cool if we get couple of more names from Rocks crew,given that so far there are like only 9 members and 1 of them is an appreantice,also with the Rocks crew Oda could always take one of those big names that aren't present in the manga and make them a movie villain.

 

[sgn15]

When kaido was mentioned as an apprentice in rocks crew, I pictured him as an overly eager/enthusiastic pirate-in-training. Someone that acts like tom holland's spidey in mcu avengers films. That's my headcanon lol.

I'm wondering about many things about rocks crew.
1. Why did oda reveal this xebec and his crew only now? When one piece is supposed close to ending in a few years? When xebec is supposedly long dead?

2. Is xebec the lurking legend? Did oda intend to represent the revival of rocks thru kaido linlin alliance?

3. With the mention of shiki, does this signify a possible canon manga appearance after chapter 0? Shiki's revelation as part of rocks crew gives more weight to his ramblings in impel down about true terror of pirates.

4. There are theories on either shanks or bb being xebec's son or in bb's case, carrying his soul or will. What do you guys think?

5. Moria might have a lot of knowledge of the legend of rocks crew if he purposely stole the corpses of its members captain john and presumably ouchoko and silver axe

 

[Krusher1357]

I've started a doujinshi or whatever you call it about the God Valley incident. Personally I think bakkin and shakky were defs members with zeff even being a candidate in my head but

 

[Bullet]

Kureha was the doctor of the ship
She knew some shit about the will of D

 

[garciajulieen]

I've started a doujinshi or whatever you call it about the God Valley incident. Personally I think bakkin and shakky were defs members with zeff even being a candidate in my head but

Kureha was the doctor of the ship
She knew some shit about the will of D

Would be awesome if Zeff and Kureha turn out to be members of Rocks

 

[Krusher1357]

Would be awesome if Zeff and Kureha turn out to be members of Rocks

100% agree with both these nibbis

 

[bluefire12]

Silver Axe seems interesting
I wonder if any of the supernovas or the shichibukai have a relation to that person

 

[Finalbeta]

Silver Axe looks indeed nice

Silver Axe seems interesting
I wonder if any of the supernovas or the shichibukai have a relation to that person

I really hope so

That would be a great twist!!

 

[sgn15]

If ouchoku is the big general zombie in thriller bark, that means his lower body was already replaced by hogback with animal parts similar to absalom?

I really feel those 2 general zombies are ouchoku and silver axe. They're even with captain john zombie.

Moria probably knows rocks notoriety during their time before roger arrived on the scene

 

[Rmstorm]

If ouchoku is the big general zombie in thriller bark, that means his lower body was already replaced by hogback with animal parts similar to absalom?

I really feel those 2 general zombies are ouchoku and silver axe. They're even with captain john zombie.

Moria probably knows rocks notoriety during their time before roger arrived on the scene

Roger did not just arrive on the scene. He had completed his journey and was at his peak by the time he fought Rocks D Xebec.

Rocks was his End of Series fight. After that, he was effectively the Pirate King without the title.

 

[sgn15]

Roger did not just arrive on the scene. He had completed his journey and was at his peak by the time he fought Rocks D Xebec.

Rocks was his End of Series fight. After that, he was effectively the Pirate King without the title.

I thought god valley was 38 years ago? From how I understood it was implied both garp and roger were both not stronger than xebec 1v1 and they won but still with difficulty.

Roger would later become rivals with the likes of wb and shiki, 2 of xebec's crewmates and garp.

Pirate king was the title given to him for completing the grand line. This was 24 years ago i think. That's a lot of years from the god valley incident. But if you meant strongest pirate at the time of god valley, it wasn't roger.

 

[Rmstorm]

I thought god valley was 38 years ago? From how I understood it was implied both garp and roger were both not stronger than xebec 1v1 and they won but still with difficulty.

Roger would later become rivals with the likes of wb and shiki, 2 of xebec's crewmates and garp.

Pirate king was the title given to him for completing the grand line. This was 24 years ago i think. That's a lot of years from the god valley incident. But if you meant strongest pirate at the time of god valley, it wasn't roger.

Roger was already stronger than Rocks D Xebec during God Valley.

It was stated in One Piece magazine 9 pirate generations that Whitebeard grew to his peak 2 years after God Valley, which was 36 years ago when he started clashing with Roger heavy.

Age 38 Whitebeard was at his peak. Gid Valley happened 38 years ago.

39 Years ago, Roger had conquered the Grandline, reaching Loadstar Island, the Island at the end of the New World. Like laughtale, he was the first to do it in 800 years.

That was 1 year before God Valley.

 

[Electricmastro]

Interesting how Captain John was the first Rocks Pirates member the Straw Hats met.

 

[sgn15]

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Roger was already stronger than Rocks D Xebec during God Valley.

It was stated in One Piece magazine 9 pirate generations that Whitebeard grew to his peak 2 years after God Valley, which was 36 years ago when he started clashing with Roger heavy.

Age 38 Whitebeard was at his peak. Gid Valley happened 38 years ago.

39 Years ago, Roger had conquered the Grandline, reaching Loadstar Island, the Island at the end of the New World. Like laughtale, he was the first to do it in 800 years.

That was 1 year before God Valley.

Ok. I stand corrected. Where can I read about these magazines? And all those data books?

Then this gives more questions than answers to me.

Roger's crew already reached the recognized final island but spent more than a decade just collecting info on amd going to the real final island laugh tale? Was garp really not much help to eoger in the fight then? Were Rayleigh and the others involved in god valley? Wb, kaido, shiki, linlin were free afterwards. So they fled or were not captured by garp's group?

 

[Rmstorm]

A

Ok. I stand corrected. Where can I read about these magazines? And all those data books?

Then this gives more questions than answers to me.

Roger's crew already reached the recognized final island but spent more than a decade just collecting info on amd going to the real final island laugh tale? Was garp really not much help to eoger in the fight then? Were Rayleigh and the others involved in god valley? Wb, kaido, shiki, linlin were free afterwards. So they fled or were not captured by garp's group?

Garp helped a lot, Garp and Roger were in their Prime, while Whitebeard, Kaido, Big Mom, Shiki etc were weaker than Peak Level Garp, and Roger.

Essentially, it was 2 PK Level dudes(Garp & Roger)+ Rayleigh( Yonko level) and Roger's crew

vs

Rocks D Xebec( between PK Level and Yonko level), Whitebeard( Current Luffy Level- Between Yonko and First mate level), Shiki( First Mate Level YC1), Big Mom( Smoothie, Queen Level), Kaido( New World Veteran Level), Captain John, Silver Axe and Ouchoku.

 

[WesMidnight]

Garp helped a lot, Garp and Roger were in their Prime, while Whitebeard, Kaido, Big Mom, Shiki etc were weaker than Peak Level Garp, and Roger.

Essentially, it was 2 PK Level dudes(Garp & Roger)+ Rayleigh( Yonko level) and Roger's crew

vs

Rocks D Xebec( between PK Level and Yonko level), Whitebeard( Current Luffy Level- Between Yonko and First mate level), Shiki( First Mate Level YC1), Big Mom( Smoothie, Queen Level), Kaido( New World Veteran Level), Captain John, Silver Axe and Ouchoku.

I am of the belief that Rocks was stronger than either Garp or Roger in their primes, but they gritted out a victory, maybe requiring WB to give up or even go against Rocks.