General & Others At what point does "inspiration" become close to "ripping off"?

I don't know what a passive peasant is, must have skipped an internet course lol

I mean that those who "want peace" or "fight by peace" are mainly advocating for a status quo. They only want their peace. Not justice or progressive change.
That's a false definition of peace I guess:kayneshrug: a passive peasant is a peasant who endures being a peasant without doing anything about the status quo
 
I will delete my account if give me one example of wano being similar other than being sunken Island because there are thousands of sunken island in history and mythology.
Wano is isolationist, Atlantis was expansionist.
Atlantis was sunk by the gods, Wano was sunk due to the barriers.
Wano's civilization still thrived afterwards, Atlantis went extinct.
Imu is Mu which is another term to refer to Plato's Atlantis. Now delete your fucking account NOW you fraud!
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Like bruh the double standard is blatant at this point.
You reminding me of Carrot4nakama
Do you even know what double standards mean??? Go back to the political thread Solis.


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Reading yall comments, I can tell none of you guys actually read my thread. Name me one successful manga, that continuously uses different sources to include into their story?
 
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Imu is Mu which is another term to refer to Plato's Atlantis. Now delete your fucking account NOW you fraud!
Firstly Imu has nothing to do with Wano in terms of the Canon story so far relying on fan theories

Secondly Mu can refer to multiple terms in Japanese including but not limited to.


  • "no", "not", "nothing", or "without"
  • "nothing", "not", "nothingness", "un-", "is not", "has not", "not any"
    1. Pure awareness, prior to experience or knowledge. This meaning is used especially by the Chan School of Buddhism.
    2. A negative.
    3. Caused to be nonexistent.
    4. Impossible; lacking reason or cause.
    5. Nonexistence; nonbeing; not having; a lack of, without.
All of these are far more connected to the little we have seen from Imu's character than The lost land of Mu.

Connecting it to the 18th century pseudoscientific concept of The lost land of Mu is nothing more than an illogical fanfiction.

That's the difference between me and you Lee, I don't need fanfiction and wild speculation to connect Naruto's Jiraiya to the Jiraiya of folklore because its just that blatant. names, powers, story, characteristics and abilities all word for word from the folk tale.


Do you even know what double standards mean??? Go back to the political thread Solis.


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Reading yall comments, I can tell none of you guys actually read my thread. Name me one successful manga, that continuously uses different sources to include into their story?
The sanin are copy pastes from the tale of jiraiya the gallant, so is kaguya from the tale of the bamboo cutter. All of these are far more blatant as well as for more important than any so called rip off you claimed to find in one piece.
 
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I’m gonna be honest here bro, you’re taking it way too serious.
Lee33 is a guy who criticizes OP whenever he gets the opportunity, sometimes he makes great points, other times not so much. Regardless, to me it is always a delight to read the threads he creates and the discussion they generate. Oda has many great problems, and in a OP forum I can appreciate a guy putting in some effort to criticize his work, tho like I said he sometimes fails to do so and his posts are just made out of sheer hate (😂) but he has made great threads too.
Why not just take it as forum entertainment, I doubt you’re someone who’d give two shits about which manga is considered better
Mate lee is a Nardotard, these people are just annoying af (you usually see them posting how this manga and that other manga copied sth from Naruto or other random nonsense), at first it didn't catch my attention that much but after his 1234th thread, it started to get on my nerves. Well, people can react differently to these; either with amusement or with annoyance. It's the latter with me.
Also, if lee was an Oda apologist, basically like C4N, constantly making threads how Oda's writing is pure peak, it would annoy me as well. I think we can both agree that much.

Again, you can see that as forum entertainment but I just see another wild Nardotard going overboard with nonsensical threads. Besides, it's the intent and I will question whether a Nardotard has ulterior motives or not. It necessarily doesn't have to be a pure comparison between two series.
 
Mate lee is a Nardotard, these people are just annoying af (you usually see them posting how this manga and that other manga copied sth from Naruto or other random nonsense), at first it didn't catch my attention that much but after his 1234th thread, it started to get on my nerves. Well, people can react differently to these; either with amusement or with annoyance. It's the latter with me.
Also, if lee was an Oda apologist, basically like C4N, constantly making threads how Oda's writing is pure peak, it would annoy me as well. I think we can both agree that much.

Again, you can see that as forum entertainment but I just see another wild Nardotard going overboard with nonsensical threads. Besides, it's the intent and I will question whether a Nardotard has ulterior motives or not. It necessarily doesn't have to be a pure comparison between two series.
My guy, there is an ignore feature. If you don't like my threads click on the ignore button. The fact you haven't ignored me yet means you enjoy my threads.
 
Lee, what you don't understand is that influence and inspiration actually IMPROVE a story.

That's a BASIC storytelling rule.
I can agree with that, but that isn't the discussion we are having. The discussion is "when does that inspiration turn into ripping off"? You can't keep hiding behind the word "inspiration".
 
I can agree with that, but that isn't the discussion we are having. The discussion is "when does that inspiration turn into ripping off"? You can't keep hiding behind the word "inspiration".
Well here is the answer:

Inspiration becomes ripping off when your intent when taking one or multiple elements of a piece of art are not related to genuine admiration, a will to create an hommage and when the process enters in conflict with the status of said piece of art.
 
I swear you One Piece fanboys act like a cult. Mu Mythical Lost Continent

Delete your account you fraud!


Mu can mean multiple things in japanese. Using sandman fan theory as objective proof makes you look even dumber than before.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)

However for the sake of argument let's assume you are right and Imu is a reference to are
Beach problem is the metaphor doesn't make sense because Wano is meant to be Atlantis than why is Imu also called Mu.
Also what way is Imu connected to Wano of course you could say that Imu is the force that caused the people of wano to pit up the barrier but that would make him a stand in for the Gods not Atlantis. As you can see Imu and The land of f Mu connection doesn't hold up.
So In order to prove that Wano was a blatant copy and paste of Atlantis you had to use two fan theories with negligible amounts of proof (Imu is a connection the land of Mu, Imu is connected to the barriers of wano) and even then it doesn't even work as a parallel to plato's Atlantis.
You really are quite Dumb.
Also why do you seem so intent on ignoring all posts on the connection between Naruto's jiraiya and the jiraiya folklore yet still defiantly claim that you have seen no examples mangakas taking as much inspiration as Oda. I guess invincible ignorance is your only available route when you're as stupid as Lee is.
 
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Mu can mean multiple things in japanese. Using sandman fan theory as objective proof makes you look even dumber than before.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mu_(negative)

However for the sake of argument let's assume you are right and Imu is a reference to are
Beach problem is the metaphor doesn't make sense because Wano is meant to be Atlantis than why is Imu also called Mu.
Also what way is Imu connected to Wano of course you could say that Imu is the force that caused the people of wano to pit up the barrier but that would make him a stand in for the Gods not Atlantis. As you can see Imu and The land of f Mu connection doesn't hold up.
So In order to prove that Wano was a blatant copy and paste of Atlantis you had to use two fan theories with negligible amounts of proof (Imu is a connection the land of Mu, Imu is connected to the barriers of wano) and even then it doesn't even work as a parallel to plato's Atlantis.
You really are quite Dumb.
Also why do you seem so intent on ignoring all posts on the connection between Naruto's jiraiya and the jiraiya folklore yet still defiantly claim that you have seen no examples mangakas taking as much inspiration as Oda. I guess invincible ignorance is your only available route when you're as stupid as Lee is.
Samurais
Ninjas
Shogun
Yamato
Isolation
If it isn't supposed to be a reference to odas home Japan .. Then I don't know
 
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Yes Od aid such a hack, The concept of a tea party is only from Alice in wonderland and nothing else. Yes pudding is nothing like Alice and the tea party is nothing the tea party in op but remember the mere concept of a tea party makes its a rip off of Alice in wonderland. Brilliant argumentation once again Lee how can we ever seek to match your brilliance
 
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