Character Discussion Author's death, are Sengoku and Mihawk fans really happy with the Manga?

#62
We can because there exists at least 3 World’s strongest when clearly there can only be one.
That is to say what Mihawk is the best at really is swordsmanship. The doesn’t make him the true strongest.
Nope, we can't. This is not a problem. Not a single title contradicts the others, for logical motivations and narrative timing

Kaido is the strongest creature
Wb is the strongest man/human, men/humans are creatures
Mihawk is the strongest swordsman, swordsmen are humans who are creatures

Kaido > wb > mihawk

Oda wrote kaido's title only when wb wasn't alive anymore

So

Wb > kaido > mihawk

Conclusion: mihawk's title isn't a problem
 
#63
I do still believe physical strength plays a role in swordsmanship even at the level of Shanks and Mihawk. It is still the physical swinging of the sword that unleashes a CoC slash.

Besides, physical strength is one of the many facets of swordsmanship that Zoro has had to master to get to Mihawk's level.

When we see Roger and WB clash for example, we see Roger putting both his arms into the swing.

I think losing the arm diminished his peak.

Lets say for example Shanks was to fight a mirror of himself, with equal stats but with both arms. If all else is equal, the minor difference in physical strength is what makes the difference.

This is why Mihawk refuses to fight Shanks. He knows what a two armed Shanks is capable of, which couldn't defeat him. If 2 armed Shanks couldn't defeat him, then 1 armed Shanks isn't even worth his time. At the level they're playing at, any small weakness makes a big difference. Imagine if Zoro was stuck with Nitoryu instead of Santoryu, even with his current haki level. It would make a difference.
I didn't say that Strength doesn't make a difference at such Level though, all I said is that it doesn't make a difference for Shanks in Particular,
Strength was indeed one of Core Stats that Zoro's Journey demonstrated is needed to reach Level of WSS, but it's not an "Addition", it's a "Switch",

For example, Hatchan Fight taught us that having a Superior Sword makes a difference, and Mr. 1 Fight taught us that Lethality makes a difference, and Ohm Fight was about Strength, and Kaku Fight was about Technique, and Ryuma Fight was about Speed & Pica Fight was about CoA ... etc

But Zoro wouldn't have learned the Importance of each of these Stats if the Remaining Stats were still part of the Equation of Victory,
What's the point of having a Sword a Million Times better than Yoru if you can't Cut your Opponent? (Mr. 1 Fight)
What's the point of being able to Cut Anything & Everything if your Attack isn't big enough nor can reach your Opponent? (Ohm Fight)
What's the point of having Strength to Cut The Universe if your Opponent can land their Attack before yours? (Zombie Ryuma Fight)
... etc

So, the real difference between Victory & Defeat isn't determined by combination of all your Stats, in which case, if One falls short, then the scales tip against you, cuz that would imply you can compensate for lack of anything by having an abundance of another, which can't be true,

When judging Fights, We instead check which Stat is making the difference, not combine them all & say whoever have Higher Total Score wins, and the same applies to Shanks, because Yes Two-Armed Shanks have more Total Score than One-Armed Shanks, but when it comes to a Fight, They are both equally challenging, it all comes to their Choices during Battle, not Stats

Imo you're imagining Shanks & his Opponent going for similar moves, but He ain't stupid to do that, hence why I told you to not judge a Fish by it's Tree Climbing Skills, and why I told you that each situation requires different Stat, so if Roger or Two-Armed Shanks swing with both arms, One-Armed Shanks isn't obliged to try & match that or use a Strength-Reliant Attack, He can instead go for a Faster Attack with One-Armed Swing or He can simply dodge or He can do a Gatling-Type Attack to match that Cannon-Type Attack ... etc
Shanks lost the privilege of countering those Peak Fighters Strength with Strength, but it doesn't mean He doesn't have other options,

It's like playing Rock, Paper, Scissor & Shanks Rock is now Weaker than Roger's, it doesn't mean He loses, it simply means that He must continue the Fight without the option of using Rock against Rock, that's all, and this is why I explained that Shanks would only lose if He makes the wrong choice, but that can only happen if He gets Outsmarted or caught by Surprise or unable to React in time in which case how many Arms have nothing to do with that (If your Opponent can Outsmart or Blitz or Surprise you, then even if Shanks had Eight Arms, He would Lose), and it's not like Shanks lacks CoO or Battle IQ or Speed or Senses ... etc

As you said, Stats still make a difference even at Level of Shanks & Mihawk Fights, but only if one of them makes a bad choice, since They are not gonna do that, then the Fight comes down to who Overwhelms the other, in which case your only option is getting past Shanks CoC.
We could say that Two-Armed Shanks wd Fight more comfortably than One-Armed Shanks, but We can't say He have Superior Power Level.
 
#64
I do still believe physical strength plays a role in swordsmanship even at the level of Shanks and Mihawk. It is still the physical swinging of the sword that unleashes a CoC slash.

Besides, physical strength is one of the many facets of swordsmanship that Zoro has had to master to get to Mihawk's level.

When we see Roger and WB clash for example, we see Roger putting both his arms into the swing.

I think losing the arm diminished his peak.

Lets say for example Shanks was to fight a mirror of himself, with equal stats but with both arms. If all else is equal, the minor difference in physical strength is what makes the difference.

This is why Mihawk refuses to fight Shanks. He knows what a two armed Shanks is capable of, which couldn't defeat him. If 2 armed Shanks couldn't defeat him, then 1 armed Shanks isn't even worth his time. At the level they're playing at, any small weakness makes a big difference. Imagine if Zoro was stuck with Nitoryu instead of Santoryu, even with his current haki level. It would make a difference.
I think that lots of readers think that the "shanks didn't lost anything!" sentence was by oda himself, but this isn't true

Tbh i made the same mistake in the past

Ofc shanks lost part of his strenght, but we don't know if he overcome that handicap with haki or something esle, maybe a fruit

In that case, i don't see a problem here, mihawk is still stronger even than shanks with both arms, becasue shanks completely overcome his handicap
 
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