Character Discussion Author's death, are Sengoku and Mihawk fans really happy with the Manga?
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Nope, we can't. This is not a problem. Not a single title contradicts the others, for logical motivations and narrative timing
Kaido is the strongest creature
Wb is the strongest man/human, men/humans are creatures
Mihawk is the strongest swordsman, swordsmen are humans who are creatures
Kaido > wb > mihawk
Oda wrote kaido's title only when wb wasn't alive anymore
So
Wb > kaido > mihawk
Conclusion: mihawk's title isn't a problem
Kaido is the strongest creature
Wb is the strongest man/human, men/humans are creatures
Mihawk is the strongest swordsman, swordsmen are humans who are creatures
Kaido > wb > mihawk
Oda wrote kaido's title only when wb wasn't alive anymore
So
Wb > kaido > mihawk
Conclusion: mihawk's title isn't a problem
I didn't say that Strength doesn't make a difference at such Level though, all I said is that it doesn't make a difference for Shanks in Particular,
Strength was indeed one of Core Stats that Zoro's Journey demonstrated is needed to reach Level of WSS, but it's not an "Addition", it's a "Switch",
For example, Hatchan Fight taught us that having a Superior Sword makes a difference, and Mr. 1 Fight taught us that Lethality makes a difference, and Ohm Fight was about Strength, and Kaku Fight was about Technique, and Ryuma Fight was about Speed & Pica Fight was about CoA ... etc
But Zoro wouldn't have learned the Importance of each of these Stats if the Remaining Stats were still part of the Equation of Victory,
What's the point of having a Sword a Million Times better than Yoru if you can't Cut your Opponent? (Mr. 1 Fight)
What's the point of being able to Cut Anything & Everything if your Attack isn't big enough nor can reach your Opponent? (Ohm Fight)
What's the point of having Strength to Cut The Universe if your Opponent can land their Attack before yours? (Zombie Ryuma Fight)
... etc
So, the real difference between Victory & Defeat isn't determined by combination of all your Stats, in which case, if One falls short, then the scales tip against you, cuz that would imply you can compensate for lack of anything by having an abundance of another, which can't be true,
When judging Fights, We instead check which Stat is making the difference, not combine them all & say whoever have Higher Total Score wins, and the same applies to Shanks, because Yes Two-Armed Shanks have more Total Score than One-Armed Shanks, but when it comes to a Fight, They are both equally challenging, it all comes to their Choices during Battle, not Stats
Imo you're imagining Shanks & his Opponent going for similar moves, but He ain't stupid to do that, hence why I told you to not judge a Fish by it's Tree Climbing Skills, and why I told you that each situation requires different Stat, so if Roger or Two-Armed Shanks swing with both arms, One-Armed Shanks isn't obliged to try & match that or use a Strength-Reliant Attack, He can instead go for a Faster Attack with One-Armed Swing or He can simply dodge or He can do a Gatling-Type Attack to match that Cannon-Type Attack ... etc
Shanks lost the privilege of countering those Peak Fighters Strength with Strength, but it doesn't mean He doesn't have other options,
It's like playing Rock, Paper, Scissor & Shanks Rock is now Weaker than Roger's, it doesn't mean He loses, it simply means that He must continue the Fight without the option of using Rock against Rock, that's all, and this is why I explained that Shanks would only lose if He makes the wrong choice, but that can only happen if He gets Outsmarted or caught by Surprise or unable to React in time in which case how many Arms have nothing to do with that (If your Opponent can Outsmart or Blitz or Surprise you, then even if Shanks had Eight Arms, He would Lose), and it's not like Shanks lacks CoO or Battle IQ or Speed or Senses ... etc
As you said, Stats still make a difference even at Level of Shanks & Mihawk Fights, but only if one of them makes a bad choice, since They are not gonna do that, then the Fight comes down to who Overwhelms the other, in which case your only option is getting past Shanks CoC.
We could say that Two-Armed Shanks wd Fight more comfortably than One-Armed Shanks, but We can't say He have Superior Power Level.
Strength was indeed one of Core Stats that Zoro's Journey demonstrated is needed to reach Level of WSS, but it's not an "Addition", it's a "Switch",
For example, Hatchan Fight taught us that having a Superior Sword makes a difference, and Mr. 1 Fight taught us that Lethality makes a difference, and Ohm Fight was about Strength, and Kaku Fight was about Technique, and Ryuma Fight was about Speed & Pica Fight was about CoA ... etc
But Zoro wouldn't have learned the Importance of each of these Stats if the Remaining Stats were still part of the Equation of Victory,
What's the point of having a Sword a Million Times better than Yoru if you can't Cut your Opponent? (Mr. 1 Fight)
What's the point of being able to Cut Anything & Everything if your Attack isn't big enough nor can reach your Opponent? (Ohm Fight)
What's the point of having Strength to Cut The Universe if your Opponent can land their Attack before yours? (Zombie Ryuma Fight)
... etc
So, the real difference between Victory & Defeat isn't determined by combination of all your Stats, in which case, if One falls short, then the scales tip against you, cuz that would imply you can compensate for lack of anything by having an abundance of another, which can't be true,
When judging Fights, We instead check which Stat is making the difference, not combine them all & say whoever have Higher Total Score wins, and the same applies to Shanks, because Yes Two-Armed Shanks have more Total Score than One-Armed Shanks, but when it comes to a Fight, They are both equally challenging, it all comes to their Choices during Battle, not Stats
Imo you're imagining Shanks & his Opponent going for similar moves, but He ain't stupid to do that, hence why I told you to not judge a Fish by it's Tree Climbing Skills, and why I told you that each situation requires different Stat, so if Roger or Two-Armed Shanks swing with both arms, One-Armed Shanks isn't obliged to try & match that or use a Strength-Reliant Attack, He can instead go for a Faster Attack with One-Armed Swing or He can simply dodge or He can do a Gatling-Type Attack to match that Cannon-Type Attack ... etc
Shanks lost the privilege of countering those Peak Fighters Strength with Strength, but it doesn't mean He doesn't have other options,
It's like playing Rock, Paper, Scissor & Shanks Rock is now Weaker than Roger's, it doesn't mean He loses, it simply means that He must continue the Fight without the option of using Rock against Rock, that's all, and this is why I explained that Shanks would only lose if He makes the wrong choice, but that can only happen if He gets Outsmarted or caught by Surprise or unable to React in time in which case how many Arms have nothing to do with that (If your Opponent can Outsmart or Blitz or Surprise you, then even if Shanks had Eight Arms, He would Lose), and it's not like Shanks lacks CoO or Battle IQ or Speed or Senses ... etc
As you said, Stats still make a difference even at Level of Shanks & Mihawk Fights, but only if one of them makes a bad choice, since They are not gonna do that, then the Fight comes down to who Overwhelms the other, in which case your only option is getting past Shanks CoC.
We could say that Two-Armed Shanks wd Fight more comfortably than One-Armed Shanks, but We can't say He have Superior Power Level.
I think that lots of readers think that the "shanks didn't lost anything!" sentence was by oda himself, but this isn't true
Tbh i made the same mistake in the past
Ofc shanks lost part of his strenght, but we don't know if he overcome that handicap with haki or something esle, maybe a fruit
In that case, i don't see a problem here, mihawk is still stronger even than shanks with both arms, becasue shanks completely overcome his handicap
Tbh i made the same mistake in the past
Ofc shanks lost part of his strenght, but we don't know if he overcome that handicap with haki or something esle, maybe a fruit
In that case, i don't see a problem here, mihawk is still stronger even than shanks with both arms, becasue shanks completely overcome his handicap
I don't think that was meant to be taken literally, I don't believe that the reason Mihawk stopped Fighting Shanks is because of his Arm, it would also imply that Shanks still doesn't mind Fighting, yet Mihawk said No, but it was pretty clear Shanks was just teasing Mihawk when He said "Are you here for another Fight?" and We all know that Mihawk was Introduced as the guy who chased Krieg half the world, yet decided not to Fight him even after being badmouthed & attacked, so neither Shanks nor Mihawk were serious, They were just teasing each other,
Fans just turned what Oda intended as just a Scene showing the kind of relationship Shanks & Mihawk have, into a Scene that reveals to us why Mihawk & Shanks Duels stopped, which isn't the case at all, that Scene was simply to reveal that Shanks & Mihawk fought before, and that Mihawk doesn't fall under Shanks Hype, (Contrary to almost every single Captain, even Joy Boy)
Those Fights are supposed to be a Big Mystery,
Duels were always very important, We literally had an Arc revolving around Dorry/Brogy Duel, We had entire Final Saga of Pre-TS Triggered by Ace & Blackbeard's Duel, We have entire Marine HQ changing because of Akainu/Aokiji Duel, We have Oden recruited after Roger/WB Duel which led to Discovery of One Piece, We have Mysterious Harald/Loki Duel, We have possibly an upcoming Major Duel on God's Valley ... etc
Major Duels make History in One Piece, They are almost never there just for fun or flexing,
But the First Duel ever teased, that Oda kept a Mystery for +1000 Chapters just comes down to fun rivalry Fights that ended because Shanks lost his Arm? Ofc not, why those Duels happened and why They ended are still Unanswered Questions.
Fans just turned what Oda intended as just a Scene showing the kind of relationship Shanks & Mihawk have, into a Scene that reveals to us why Mihawk & Shanks Duels stopped, which isn't the case at all, that Scene was simply to reveal that Shanks & Mihawk fought before, and that Mihawk doesn't fall under Shanks Hype, (Contrary to almost every single Captain, even Joy Boy)
Those Fights are supposed to be a Big Mystery,
Duels were always very important, We literally had an Arc revolving around Dorry/Brogy Duel, We had entire Final Saga of Pre-TS Triggered by Ace & Blackbeard's Duel, We have entire Marine HQ changing because of Akainu/Aokiji Duel, We have Oden recruited after Roger/WB Duel which led to Discovery of One Piece, We have Mysterious Harald/Loki Duel, We have possibly an upcoming Major Duel on God's Valley ... etc
Major Duels make History in One Piece, They are almost never there just for fun or flexing,
But the First Duel ever teased, that Oda kept a Mystery for +1000 Chapters just comes down to fun rivalry Fights that ended because Shanks lost his Arm? Ofc not, why those Duels happened and why They ended are still Unanswered Questions.
We don't have an origin story for Mihawk yet, he has a cross as a chain. There is a church at Thriller bark where Nami almost got married at.
Then Kuma arrives there with a bible and transports Perona to Mihawk(I think). Kuma and Mihawk might have some friendship because of the church stuff. '
It's a clear reference, I like it. Zolo heard they are friends from Kuma which is why he said nothing to Sanji.
Then Kuma arrives there with a bible and transports Perona to Mihawk(I think). Kuma and Mihawk might have some friendship because of the church stuff. '
It's a clear reference, I like it. Zolo heard they are friends from Kuma which is why he said nothing to Sanji.
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