Questions & Mysteries Awakened or not? Thats the question.

Awakened or not?

  • Kaido has awakening

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#24
Kaido's fruit is a fish but he became a dragon which is true sight of awakening. Also he knew about awakening thing and I doubt that someone like him could just learn something without using it
No. Kaido's model is Azure dragon. Just like kaku has ox ox fruit model giraffe -- His DF is giraffe not ox
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--Looking objectively there can be 3 situations all them having reasoning behind them

--Kaido does not have awakening -- Reminder Kaido has mythical zoan and not a normal zoan and even then normal zoan awakening is highlighted by form change and when used case in point Lucci. Kaido's hybrid on its own is lack luster already not taking dura advantage so if indeed his bulky form is awakening ; its extremely weak and trash awakening for a mythical zoan. Luffy's awakening shits on Kaido's for example

--Kaido does have awakening -- If he has one it is either Kaen hakkei or bulky mode. Now bulky mode as a mythical zoan awakening is extremely trash but it maybe the case at the end. Same for kaen hakkei even though Kaido himself is not changing. The fact Kaido has his DF for 40 years and knows about awakening and not has it is illogical

--Kaido has awakening but never used it as he can not control it -- This also maybe the case knowing oda lol
 
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#26
I still have a hard time believing that completely. It still feels like he ate a fish fruit, whose specific breed was the one that fits the lore of turning into a dragon.
If Kaido had shown traditional awakened abilities, it woulda felt like a double awakening
As said it is the model that matters. Kaku's fruit is not ox fruit even though its naming is ox ox fruit. What matters is the model which is azure dragon for Kaido and giraffe for Kaku. Also momo having dragon DF debunks this
 
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--Kaido has awakening but never used it as he can not control it -- This also maybe the case knowing oda lol
Funny you mention this, I could see this being the case, as wasn't Oden the only person we've known to almost kill Kaido too? I thought that might trigger his awakening when Oden cut him like that but sadly not...

Someone suggested the reason Kaido couldn't awaken is because his fruit is a guardian deity and thus directly contradicts his own philosophy, attitude and such. The fruit didn't choose him either as we know Zoans are sentient too and choose their owners supposedly, well try to and Big Mom gave Kaido his fruit instead?
This makes most sense for why he didn't have or show it then imo.

Honestly Kaido's fruit being an actual Carp fruit that evolves into a Dragon could be a great flashback ...:josad:


I really wanted Kaido to be an actual Carp that ate his DF somehow or just turned into a dragon regardless of a DF, was essentially granted "godhood" or ascended for being the only carp to scale that waterfall of Wano or somewhere similar, maybe with a bigger waterfall and thus more difficult to swim up?

Oda dropped the ball so fucking hard on him, harder than Kaido dropping on the Kidd alliance too.
 
#33
It's weird either way honestly. If he has it, why didn't Oda just say it. No point keeping it vague whilst having pretty much every other awakened user state it though Kaku also displayed it without clarifying so it could be the case. If he doesn't have it, then the World's Strongest Creature with quite a hyped up fruit and powers couldn't awaken after decades which just seems underwhelming.

I think Blazing Bagua works fine as an awakened form and I'd prefer Oda clarifying but at this point, it's strange either way. I still think it's understandable to think he didn't have it considering Oda could've just said as much but I'm not really firm on any side, I would just prefer Kaido being awakened over not.
 
#38
Crocodile said a similar lines in Alabasta. He just didn't say "Awakening" directly.


At least until Impel Down where Croc mentions "Awakening" for the first time.


It's up to folks to think if Crocodile or Kaido have Awakening or not.
And given the evidence crocodile shows it more than kaido
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Kaido's fruit is a fish but he became a dragon which is true sight of awakening. Also he knew about awakening thing and I doubt that someone like him could just learn something without using it
His fruit is a dragon.
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Kaido has also this weird 3rd hybrid form with a smaller dragon head
Kaido and some of the animal kingdom pirates can just do what chopper does. Arm Point. Neck point. Etc.
 
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