General & Others Based on all of this hype around Loki how strong do you expect him to be?

[zzShinichi]

TOp tier who can give Kaido a high diff fight seems reasonable.

 

[DonWick]

So you are using Luffy as the representation of Yonkou lvl?

That's tough to judge atm, based on his Egghead encounter with Kizaru, Luffy is atleast comfortably below an all out serious Kizaru imo. If I ignore matchups and scale the rest of the Admirals to Kizaru, this would put Luffy closer to the old legends than the Admirals, but whether Kizaru was an exception or not remains to be seen.

Luffy is just a notch below Admirals or he's in the mix with them but just loses to Kizaru, hard to say until we see his next big fight.

With Loki I think he can def cap at Old Ray and Garp, and it would make sense. Obviously at the very least these guys can give Luffy more than a good fight, so Loki would be fine in this range.

Bro I don’t care where you rank Luffy I’m just giving you the scale I’m using and wondering where you rank Loki.

Admiral and yonko level is stupid bro
He is a top tier

bro I don’t give a shit how yall feel about admiral level or Yonko level. I have Yonko > Admiral clearly, if you don’t like it don’t vote.

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I don't make distinction between yonko level and admiral level.
Even if yonkos are on average stronger, you can't make the case that there are zero admirals at least as strong as BM, current BB and current Luffy.

That being said, Loki is obviously going to be a top tier. He's definitely going to be stronger than old legends, maybe stronger than new admirals too.

I have the three you mentioned beating every admiral outside of the fleet admiral who is Yonko level.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Above Kizaru

 

[L o g i a]

Similar power level to Yamato. Can hold his own against top tiers but not for very long. Alternatively, lacks the power top tiers have but is very difficult to put down. Either or.

 

[MonsterKaido]

Solid top tier. Kaido level I think.

 

[Bad English]

TOp tier who can give Kaido a high diff fight seems reasonable.

Zoro level is well for Loki

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

Bare minimum Admiral level

Definitely stronger than a YC1 if the giants needed Shanks help to subdue a mere yonko commander then their bigger bums than I thought

I can see him possibly at one point being yonko tier but after 6 years chained up unable to train, unable to keep up his strength it's very possible he fell down to Admiral tier at least until he gets his mojo back, also depends on the strength of his fruit

People actually get power ups after getting chained in One Piece. Do you remember Crocodile going from getting beaten by Arabasta's Luffy to facing YCs and Admirals in Marineford?

Post-chains Loki is probably PK level. 😂

 

[trav]

Stronger than Yamato, weaker than Shanks.

 

[RayanOO]

Weaker than current Law
3>2.6

You really think so ?

i see him stronger than end of Wano Law no doubt

Bounty doesn’t being the right ladder here

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Kaido level I think.

Lmao traitor

 

[Dragon777]

Top tier level.

 

[gz89]

Stronger than Meme

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Weaker than the admirals but can push one to high diff.

 

[Kumathegoat]

above Kaido

Below Dragon and Mihawk

 

[BlackLegFring]

Imagine still doing that “Yonko level”, “Admiral level” nonsense in 2025.

Anyway, Oda seems to be setting him up to be a top tier or just short of it.

 

[The Legend]

Stronger than any assmiraL sspecially this one with a retarded face

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Around Big mom level

 

[ZenZu]

Weaker than current Law
3>2.6

Shanks would have clapped Greenbull in real time, just like he clapped Loki and Kid. Oda has no hesitation to clown even top-tiers when it comes to Shanks. Loki could very much fuck up Goofy and be mid top-tier but he still lost to Shanks.

Clowning apex top tiers and defeating them is treated entirely like a separate thing. Blackbeard gets clowned by Seraphim.