Questions & Mysteries BB Pirates will go after 2 Ancient Weapons

#21
Momonosuke can communicate with Zunisha, all BBP need is make Momonosuke gives the command.
Zunisha has to come there and has to be near Wano too. Also, opening Wano's borders was presented as a key political choice. Doesn't make much sense to force Momo to do It after Oda decided to postpone It until the "right" moment.

Not to mention, BB could probably break the walls alone. He doesn't need Zunisha... But the thing was presented as Zunisha's future role.

I think BB will actually try to go to Wano, but Shanks will try to stop him
and we'll have the fight promised at the Jump festa.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#22
Tbh Pluton Is the most unlikely since needs the destruction of Wano, a thing that almost surely Zunisha Is going to do and no other.

Posiedon Is far more likely since we know Luffy has to come back there.
Only the destruction of outer walls is needed and tbh, Gura seems like a match made in heaven.
I think each Emperor will obtain one Ancient Weapon, SH obtaining another Pluton thanks to Franky.
Not sure about Luffy going back to FMI, its destruction is achievable from the surface with AW, imo.
 
#23
Only the destruction of outer walls is needed and tbh, Gura seems like a match made in heaven.
It Is, but the thing Is presented as Momo and Zunisha's future role, not so much as BB's doing.

I think each Emperor will obtain one Ancient Weapon, SH obtaining another Pluton thanks to Franky.
Not sure about Luffy going back to FMI, its destruction is achievable from the surface with AW, imo.
Possibile, but If I remember correctly, Shirely saw fire around Luffy, so he Is likely going there physically.

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#25
Zunisha has to come there and has to be near Wano too. Also, opening Wano's borders was presented as a key political choice. Doesn't make much sense to force Momo to do It after Oda decided to postpone It until the "right" moment.

Not to mention, BB could probably break the walls alone. He doesn't need Zunisha... But the thing was presented as Zunisha's future role.

I think BB will actually try to go to Wano, but Shanks will try to stop him
and we'll have the fight promised at the Jump festa.
BB are likely to get Pluton.
But for Poseidon, it's weird. The mural shows a mermaid fighting along side Nika. Yes I am taking the mural as a reference. Maybe BB did kidnap Poseidon and later she escapes.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#26
It Is, but the thing Is presented as Momo and Zunisha's future role, not so much as BB's doing.
Not sure about that.
Momo's role is as the leader of the Samurai, a very important faction that is also represented in the ancient mural.
Zunisha's role is probably to transport a significant amount of troops onto the Red Line, for the WG war.
I assume it wont be easy for enemies to get there if WG is trying to prevent them from coming up so Zunisha is critical.

Possibile, but If I remember correctly, Shirely saw fire around Luffy, so he Is likely going there physically.
It is possible that he goes back there physically but for now, I cant think of a reason why that would happen, any time soon.
Maybe some secret villain appears there, the Sea God or Davy Jones or whoever...
I saw it more as Luffy being responsible for FMI destruction and firing an AW from the surface would also check that off.
On the other hand, maybe it is also Katarina Devon...
 
#27
Is Teach going to choose one of the targets and focus on one of them, or go with 2 different teams after 2 ancient weapons?

For now, we see that BB Pirates can go into;

Solo missions:

- Burgess goes to Dressrosa to steal Flame Logia.
- Lafitte goes to Marijoa and later Umit Shipping to gather information and make deal.

Duo missions:

- Shiryu and Lafitte goes to Dressrosa to pick up Burgess.
- Aokiji and Augur goes to Whole Cake Island to kidnap Pudding.
- Devon and Augur goes to Egghead to steal Saturn's appearance.

Trio mission:

- Blackbeard, Devon and Vasco goes to Amazon Lily to steal Hancock's DF, ends up kidnapping Koby.

Quadruple mission:

- Blackbeard, Doc Q, Augur, Burgess waits one of the 3 billion captains to show up on the road from Wano.

So they don't need to move with all of the crew.

How are they going to move and steal 2 Ancient Weapons from Fishman Island and Wano? Plus they need to guard Garp and Pudding unless they carry them when they go which I doubt.

Perhaps Oda will send Aokiji, and some other fodders like Caribou, Don Krieg, Gin to help him, and some other unknown members of BB Pirates (not titanic captains) to Fishman Island to kidnap Ancient Weapon Shirahoshi, because Aokiji's freezing ability is perfect to the underwater drowning threat while fighting on Fishman Island, and Luffy will try to stop Aokiji there, potentially beat him and end Aokiji's ties with BB Pirates.

Remember, Fishman Island is the place where Luffy learned about Aokiji's loss vs Akainu for the first time, that would be interesting for them to face each other again in that place and as an Emperor, Luffy will protect his territory.

Or Shanks might involve in this as he follows Teach's movements.

But Oda would perhaps compensate for that failure by giving the Pluton Ancient Weapon from Wano to BB Pirates, so they can conquer World Government or be equal partners with them. Or Caribou when no one notices steal Shirahoshi like he did before, and even if Aokiji or someone else fails, perhaps he can manage to escape with Shirahoshi. There are many possible scenarios how Oda will go from here.

I believe Shiryu should go to Wano due to Wano connections, but there is someone needed to guard the prisoners so not sure about that.
I think Pizarro, with his powers, will be able to move Hashinosu to another places (like Thriller Bark and Zou). In this scenario I think Teach, Shyriu, Pizarro, Devon and the fodders pirates of Hashinosu are going to Wano. While Kuzan, Van Augur, Laffitte (he is already there actually), and the others titanic captains are going to fishman island.

They will split in two teams

Shyriu will get the DF for his sword in Wano

Teach unleashing Pluton gonna be the reason of why Yamato gonna leave Wano

Oden leave Wano because of WB
Yamato will leave Wano because of BB
 
#28
BB are likely to get Pluton.
But for Poseidon, it's weird. The mural shows a mermaid fighting along side Nika. Yes I am taking the mural as a reference. Maybe BB did kidnap Poseidon and later she escapes.
I would also see this way: why giving BB the information about Poseidon if he isn't going to do anything about it?

Imho, he has to do something.

Not sure about that.
Momo's role is as the leader of the Samurai, a very important faction that is also represented in the ancient mural.
Zunisha's role is probably to transport a significant amount of troops onto the Red Line, for the WG war.
I assume it wont be easy for enemies to get there if WG is trying to prevent them from coming up so Zunisha is critical.
Sure, but at the end of Wano Momo explained he now knows why Wano's borders has to remain and that now it isn't the moment:


This was presented as Momo's tactical choice, something that even the Gorosei respected... just fro BB to randomly make this decision for him?
And then there is Zunisha's role foreshadowing in this: he should be the one to destroy Wano's walls.

BB will try to come to Wano imho, but Shanks will trie to stop him.

It is possible that he goes back there physically but for now, I cant think of a reason why that would happen, any time soon.
Maybe some secret villain appears there, the Sea God or Davy Jones or whoever...
I saw it more as Luffy being responsible for FMI destruction and firing an AW from the surface would also check that off.
On the other hand, maybe it is also Katarina Devon...
Imho he'll come both for Shirahoshi kidnapping and to finally maintain the promise.
 
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nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#30
I would also see this way: why giving BB the information about Poseidon if he isn't going to do anything about it?

Imho, he has to do something.



Sure, but at the end of Wano Momo explained he now knows why Wano's borders has to remain and that now it isn't the moment:


This was presented as Momo's tactical choice, something that even the Gorosei respected... just fro BB to randomly make this decision for him?
And then there is Zunisha's role foreshadowing in this: he should be the one to destroy Wano's walls.

BB will try to come to Wano imho, but Shanks will trie to stop him.



Imho he'll come both for Shirahoshi kidnapping and to finally maintain the promise.
I am aware of it all but I still think Blackbeard will be the one who will destroy those walls and steal Pluton.
4 Emperors and 3 ancient weapons while another one can be created by a shipwright is too much of a coincidence, imo.

@Erkan12 @nik87 if Shyriu is going to Wano and if his sword eat Kaido's DF, he will be able to make Hashinosu become a flying island

He won't even waste energy for that, because he is not the user of the DF, but the sword
Shiryu will take Orochi's DF, not Kaido's. That one has already shown off everything and the thing it didn't show, will be shown on Momo.
No need to make Beehive fly when they have Van Augur's warping ability or Pizzaro's living island...
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#37
No one cares your ZKKeK baseless fanfictions Lik, you should've already learned your lessons when you got the Ls about ZKK, Gaban and Kaido saying ''can'' , yet you still run your mouth. :suresure:
Second time you fail in a row... Let's go for 3rd attempt -- Which part of DFs do not work in front of hakimen you don't understand?
 
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