Questions & Mysteries Being Imu or Joyboy

#1
Just like being joyboy means:
  • Having VoAT to hear and talk to any creature
  • Having CoC
  • Having Nika df and being able to awaken it
So is the same thing with being Imu is just finding someone who has VoAT, CoC and a fruit that only the first Imu awoke.

They've been lots of Imu or at least 2 so far just like Gorosei members changes throughout timeline

Remember Doffy case with Trebol and co?
That's how Gorosei or WG probably found a CD who showed at first VoAT and CoC and they gave him the famous fruit and that's how he ended up having imu spirit or will

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#2
Just like being joyboy means:
  • Having VoAT to hear and talk to any creature
  • Having CoC
  • Having Nika df and being able to awaken it
So is the same thing with being Imu is just finding someone who has VoAT, CoC and a fruit that only the first Imu awoke.

They've been lots of Imu or at least 2 so far just like Gorosei members changes throughout timeline

Remember Doffy case with Trebol and co?
That's how Gorosei or WG probably found a CD who showed at first VoAT and CoC and they gave him the famous fruit and that's how he ended up having imu spirit or will

@RayanOO @Sentinel @Tyki_Mikk @Topi Jerami
Elders called ImU "The Creator"

IMU stares at Lily's portrait and wants Vivi who looks like her.


We have enough hints to say "He's the orginal one"
 
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Foul Legacy

#3
Just like being joyboy means:
  • Having VoAT to hear and talk to any creature
  • Having CoC
  • Having Nika df and being able to awaken it
VoAT and CoC criteria is useless. Even Momo and roger have it.
and pretty sure if Roger ate nika fruit he would awaken it too.


it's all about "time". Such criteria are useless.
 
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Borasey79

#4
Elders called ImU "The Creator"

IMU stares at Lily's portrait and wants Vivi who looks like her.


We have enough hints to say "He's the orginal one"
IMU is "the gardener", he who tended to the DFs and knew most about them.
JoyBoy, as Prometheus (sun god), took this special technology (DFs), and gave it to the normies.
Angered that the DFs spread from his garden to the world at large, IMU decided to flood it.
 

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#5
IMU is "the gardener", he who tended to the DFs and knew most about them.
JoyBoy, as Prometheus (sun god), took this special technology (DFs), and gave it to the normies.
Angered that the DFs spread from his garden to the world at large, IMU decided to flood it.
After reading that, for a second, I thought it's Monkey D theories who quoted me
 
#7
I think people are jumping to conclusions fast
How did Luffy's Journey Start? With Brother Trio
One living in a Kingdom, One living in a Village & One living in a Mountain with Bandits

When Ace Died, it was shown over & over again that Luffy Inherited Ace's Will
But who ended up having Ace's DF? Was it Luffy? No
It was Sabo

Joy Boy was Confirmed to have Ability same as Sun God Nika
And Joy Boy was Confirmed to be from Ancient Kingdom while Nika is from Elbaf (Huge Mountainous Area)

So Joy Boy isn't Old Era Luffy as People think He is, He is probably Sabo of Void Century
While Nika was Ace of Void Century, and We still have a Third Character to Discover (Someone from a Village)

Joy Boy becoming a Pirate is Reference to Sabo leaving his Kingdom to live in Gray Terminal where He basically identified as a Pirate & think of it as Mini Version of Grand Line, but Sabo's Journey didn't Last Long and He was forced back inside his Kingdom

The 20 Kings are probably from Ancient Kingdom, the War between them & Joy Boy was an Internal Conflict, just like Sabo was against the Cleansing of Gray Terminal, while the Nobles (Representing the OG Kings here) Supported it

However, who was the actual Villain of that Flashback? It was King of Goa Kingdom himself
And who was assigned to Destroy Gray Terminal, it was Bluejam Pirates who were Defeated by Ace & Bandits.
In other words, Joy Boy vs 20 Kings wasn't the Main Battle, the actual one was between Nika & Elbaf Army vs whoever was Unleashed by Ruler of Ancient Kingdom

This means that Imu is just one of those Nobles who wanted to Rule so badly & ended up Succeeding to some extent, and is there such Character in Sabo Flashback? Yes, it's Sterry (Sabo's Adopted Brother) who became Ruler after the actual Royal Family Mysteriously Died
(But as Hinted by Kuma Flashback, They wanted to become CDs, and either They were Killed for Insisting or They actually did Succeed & They faked their Deaths)

The Actual Villains of Story whom Joy Boy truly wanted to Disappear Forever are Ruler of Ancient Kingdom & whoever He unleashed upon the World who both Disappeared & will one day Return (Bluejam was Tricked by King of Goa Kingdom & only realized it after He already started the Destruction of Gray Terminal)

We already heard of these Two Characters, They were mentioned in Fishmen Island Arc as "Sea God" & "Vander Decken", their Legend clearly indicates that Vander Decken was used to Unleash a Storm upon the World by Sea God who as Name suggests was probably Title He got for being Ruler of Ancient Kingdom

Another thing to mention is that Bluejam claimed all the Treasures of Gray Terminal, but his Treasure was stolen by Sabo & Ace cuz They wanted to use it to buy a Pirate Ship, this actually matches with Vander Decken as his Legend is exactly like Davy Jones & there is a Song in Fishmen Island Arc that confirms Vander Decken is considered "The Richest" who claims all the Treasures.
So that's what Joy Boy took in his Journey as a Pirate & used to create One Piece.

OG Kings answered to this Sea God (Hence why Mary Geoise Holy Knights are called God's Knights, that's who They serve)
Imu on the other hand is the Traitor, He is the one who wants to Rule instead of that Sea God, that's why He does it in Secret, He is like the Devil who turned against God
 
#8
Elders called ImU "The Creator"

IMU stares at Lily's portrait and wants Vivi who looks like her.


We have enough hints to say "He's the orginal one"
Luffy is called Joyboy, the saviour, Nika
Does it it mean he's the original joyboy or sun god?
 
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Borasey79

#9
Luffy is called Joyboy, the saviour, Nika
Does it it mean he's the original joyboy or sun god?
Not really the same thing, though, is it?
If you call someone the sun god, they're the sun god. Even if a previous sun god existed.
If you call someone the liberator, then he is a liberator. Even if previous liberators existed.
If you call someone the creator, then he is the creator. He may be one of several concurrent creators (even if the the would suggest otherwise). But he is one of the original(s) nonetheless.
 
#10
Not really the same thing, though, is it?
If you call someone the sun god, they're the sun god. Even if a previous sun god existed.
If you call someone the liberator, then he is a liberator. Even if previous liberators existed.
If you call someone the creator, then he is the creator. He may be one of several concurrent creators (even if the the would suggest otherwise). But he is one of the original(s) nonetheless.
It can still mean that the current Imu has the power to create or rule
Or that he's the same as the og Imu the creator
 

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#12
Luffy is called Joyboy, the saviour, Nika
Does it it mean he's the original joyboy or sun god?
Have you seen Luffy even giving a damn about what happened in the past or who joyboy or Nika is?


But I have panels which indicates IMU cares as if he was there.

Big difference
 
#17
Zunesha must also be involved.
Imo, Zunesha is brother or cousin of Imu.
He betrayed Imu so he got punished, kind of awaken blocked beast state ( mythological fruit airavata)
Those hawk eyes are nerona sharingan.
 
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