Best Manga/Anime Villain Finale

THE BEST VILLAIN HERE?


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#21
monster is a shit insufferable series with the entire story hinging on an attempt at the hamfisted "white savior" trope except tenma is japanese and not white. also super historically ignorant regarding all that tHeY wErE cUlTiVaTiNg nEo-HitLeR-jUgEnD iN eAsT gErMaNy (no, idiot, they were commies whose entire ideology hinged on using "fascists" as the eternal Boogeyman).

wanking monster is a neon sign of shit taste and historical illiteracy. none of its characters belong on a 'best anime...' poll of any kind.

:akaman:
 

AL sama

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#24
monster is a shit insufferable series with the entire story hinging on an attempt at the hamfisted "white savior" trope except tenma is japanese and not white. also super historically ignorant regarding all that tHeY wErE cUlTiVaTiNg nEo-HitLeR-jUgEnD iN eAsT gErMaNy (no, idiot, they were commies whose entire ideology hinged on using "fascists" as the eternal Boogeyman).

wanking monster is a neon sign of shit taste and historical illiteracy. none of its characters belong on a 'best anime...' poll of any kind.

:akaman:
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝕴𝖓 𝕿𝖍𝖎𝖘 𝖂𝖔𝖗𝖑𝖉 𝕺𝖓𝖑𝖞 𝕴 𝖆𝖒 𝕶𝖎𝖓𝖌
#27
From Naruto?

She wasn't even nominated.



Pain, Orochimaru, Obito, Itachi and Kabuto were from Naruto.



yeah hardcore Light fans do
Perhaps, but not always.




it's more like some people like to think what Light was doing wasn't wrong and L was wrong for stopping him
Could be, but there are reasons people consider L the villain.



I know lil Al..
 
#29
I feel like Johan is easily the best out of them. Light, while being a brillant manipulator, was basically just a teen/young adult with a God complex. Griffith was broken by all the torture and rejected his humanity, so he basically became a literal monster with no sense of guilt (which disqualifies him kinda since he‘s no different from monsters like Cthulhu). Askeladd I don’t know that much about, but I think Vinland Saga was generally just a brutal series. But Johan combines all of the above aspects while ultimately still being human and committing all those atrocities with just human capabilities. I think it’s impressive how evil a single human being can become.
 
#32
Light winning this makes sense for a forum full of Zoro fans

what is Light? his an egoists psychopath who murders in the name of his own ego and lacks any doubts
His story was not a tragedy, it was a theater for children.

he is simply an insult to Faust.
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝕴𝖓 𝕿𝖍𝖎𝖘 𝖂𝖔𝖗𝖑𝖉 𝕺𝖓𝖑𝖞 𝕴 𝖆𝖒 𝕶𝖎𝖓𝖌
#33
Light winning this makes sense for a forum full of Zoro fans

what is Light? his an egoists psychopath who murders in the name of his own ego and lacks any doubts
His story was not a tragedy, it was a theater for children.

he is simply an insult to Faust.
My dude, out of the 16 people that have voted for Light currently, only 2 are Zoro fans lol.


Light's story is a story of absolute power indeed being capable of corrupting absolutely.


If even the best student in all of Japan, a model student/child, perfect guy, with no problematic upbringing, fell to the dark side, let's call it that, then there's no hope for anyone else. Light's story is a cautionary story of absolute power.


Faust and Light do share similarities, mainly dealing with the supernatural, and stuff, but their stories and outcomes are much different.


From what I recall, Faust is redeemed in the end, because he strives to be better even if he doesn't really do it. He's also cautious about the consequences of his actions and driven by the desire for truth and fulfilment.
 
#34
If even the best student in all of Japan, a model student/child, perfect guy, with no problematic upbringing, fell to the dark side, let's call it that, then there's no hope for anyone else. Light's story is a cautionary story of absolute power.
even a child knows "no one" is safe from being corrupted by power
how is that even a point in his favor?
to embody something that everybody know is true, is simply playing a low level game in the world of fiction

and Light wasn't even corrupted
nor he wasn't someone who should've have fall yet did
this man didn't even doubted his f***ed up dream for a sec
this is simply a character with NO depth, he is merely a "function not personality"
humans don't behave that way
 
#35
I’ll vote for Askeladd, probably the best written character here. Shame that Kotomine or Bondrewd didn’t get far.

Bondrewd was a menace, an unforgettable and very effective villain. Episode 13 of Made in Abyss was traumatizing.
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝕴𝖓 𝕿𝖍𝖎𝖘 𝖂𝖔𝖗𝖑𝖉 𝕺𝖓𝖑𝖞 𝕴 𝖆𝖒 𝕶𝖎𝖓𝖌
#36
even a child knows "no one" is safe from being corrupted by power
how is that even a point in his favor?
to embody something that everybody know is true, is simply playing a low level game in the world of fiction

and Light wasn't even corrupted
nor he wasn't someone who should've have fall yet did
this man didn't even doubted his f***ed up dream for a sec
this is simply a character with NO depth, he is merely a "function not personality"
humans don't behave that way
I didn't say it's a point in his favour, I just stated that's his story.

The fall from grace happening to Light is what makes the story. Because Light is not your average Joe, he's not meant to be relatable to just about anyone. He's perfect. That's why the story carries weight.


Light isn't designed to be overly human and someone anyone can relate to. He's designed as the pinnacle, as the perfect one, etc.

His depth isn't in warmth, or being relatable, or stuff like that. It's in his character writing, his nuanced plans, how he ticks. He's not an overly emotional guy, and he sees people as pawns and obstacles in his way, nothing more. He's mechanic, precise, has swagger off the charts.

Light did have a slight doubt at first, when he first utilized the Death Note, but overcame it quite quickly, and his goal of eliminating crime can be interpreted as noble, it's just the way he goes about it and the means he uses to do that, that make it different. And that descent from his original goal to just removing anyone in his way is the fall from grace.


Compare say Light and Lelouch. Most would agree that Lelouch was a hero, no? Lelouch also killed people, waged wars, all for the sake of world piece, and his vision came true and he willingly sacrificed himself in the end. He redeemed his 'wrong doings', whilst Light never did. Light planned on ruling the world as long as he is alive and his original goal from just eliminating crime quickly became the goal of him becoming the God of the world.
 

Light D Lamperouge

𝕴𝖓 𝕿𝖍𝖎𝖘 𝖂𝖔𝖗𝖑𝖉 𝕺𝖓𝖑𝖞 𝕴 𝖆𝖒 𝕶𝖎𝖓𝖌
#38
If we were to find a character with a similar philosophy to Raito it would be Raskolnikov, from Crime and Punishment, which is what also most likely shaped the story of Death Note.


They both share the view and grapple with the idea that 'extraordinary' people have the right to transcend regular laws and morals to shape the society.

They do have their differences as well, in the end Raskolnikov crumbles under the pretense of being God and above others, while Light doubles down on it. And while Light feels no remorse at the end, Raskolnikov tries to redeem himself.
 
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