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Ghandi the Gorosei is real WSS and final Zoro's opponent?


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#21
gorosei are a joke, once Luffy finds out how to get past their regen they'll be beaten similar to any other admiral tier possibly less.

No way mihawk is weaker than these guys.
 
#25
I think the existence of Nasujuro makes it very likely that Mihawk’s title refers to sword skill alone, as opposed to overall power level.

Mihawk beats Nasujuro in a sword dual. However Nasujuro is still stronger due to mythic zoan awakening and immortality.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
#26
We will see soon enough
Imu and Gorosei being the final challenge was never a thing.
Because of Mihawk. :zosmug:
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However Nasujuro is still stronger due to mythic zoan awakening and immortality.
This is why you are wrong.
It is mythical Zoan awakening and immortality why he is weaker than Mihawk.
If he focused on haki alone, he maybe could stand a chance but taking shortcuts to power like DFs is for the pussies. :catlewd:
 
#27
Nasu is going to be just as much a swordsman as King.

His blade isn't a black blade and he's going to rely on his DF/Racial Abilities just like King, or whatever power the Gorosei holds just like Saturn.
 
#28
Nasu is going to be just as much a swordsman as King.

His blade isn't a black blade and he's going to rely on his DF/Racial Abilities just like King, or whatever power the Gorosei holds just like Saturn.
Unlike King, Nusjuro seems to have a graded blade, more specifically the highest graded cursed sword in the One Piece world. To be able to handle such weapon would need a lot of mastery over swordsmanship.
 
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#29
Unlike King, Nusjuro seems to have a graded blade, more specifically the highest graded cursed sword in the One Piece world. To be able to handle such weapon would need a lot of mastery over swordsmanship.
I don't know about swordsmanship but definitely requires COC. Oden who's definitely not a grandmaster swordsman at a young age managed to use Enma just well because of his monstrous haki.

Also, unless it's a black blade I don't think Nasu is peak swordsmanship.

I think Nasu will rely more on his DF and the sword is just complementary rather than the other way around.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#30
I don't know about swordsmanship but definitely requires COC. Oden who's definitely not a grandmaster swordsman at a young age managed to use Enma just well because of his monstrous haki.

Also, unless it's a black blade I don't think Nasu is peak swordsmanship.

I think Nasu will rely more on his DF and the sword is just complementary rather than the other way around.
Hes got the strongest cursed blade in the world
His haki is better than odens.
 
#31
I don't know about swordsmanship but definitely requires COC. Oden who's definitely not a grandmaster swordsman at a young age managed to use Enma just well because of his monstrous haki.

Also, unless it's a black blade I don't think Nasu is peak swordsmanship.

I think Nasu will rely more on his DF and the sword is just complementary rather than the other way around.
Cursed blades won't accept weak masters, you gotta tame them, what Ghandi has in hands is THE strongest cursed sword.

I don't think he is just a swordsman, but it's a pretty big thing
 
#33
Cursed blades won't accept weak masters, you gotta tame them, what Ghandi has in hands is THE strongest cursed sword.

I don't think he is just a swordsman, but it's a pretty big thing
Hes got the strongest cursed blade in the world
His haki is better than odens.
But there's more to sworsmanship than just haki right?

Or else Roger, Shanks, and even WB would've made their weapons black blade.

I'm just saying Mihawk who's strength is synonymous to Yoru is peak swordsmanship rather than Nasu who'd probably still be top tier without his sword, meaning he'll not rely much on his sword as much as Mihawk.

But if Nasu has a black blade, well, I don't think there would be a doubt he is the stronger swordsman.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#34
But there's more to sworsmanship than just haki right?

Or else Roger, Shanks, and even WB would've made their weapons black blade.

I'm just saying Mihawk who's strength is synonymous to Yoru is peak swordsmanship rather than Nasu who'd probably still be top tier without his sword, meaning he'll not rely much on his sword as much as Mihawk.

But if Nasu has a black blade, well, I don't think there would be a doubt he is the stronger swordsman.
No there isn't.


Why would he ?
A non swordsman can't use a cursed blade
 
#35
No there isn't.


Why would he ?
A non swordsman can't use a cursed blade
There isn't?

Why then Roger, WB, Shanks doesn't have black blade? AdvCOC is peak haki.

Never said Nasu isn't a swordsman.
Just not peak swordsman for me if he doesn't have black blade.

Or are you suggesting Nasu is peak swordsman even if he doesn't have black blade?
 
#36
1) Ultimately Zoro needs to surpass Sword God Ryuma (portrayal wise hyped as strongest swordsman of all time) & not just Mihawk (currently undoubtedly the strongest swordsman of the present).

2) Zoro will beat Mihawk to get the title of WSS before the final war with WG. By the end of this fight , he ought to have turned atleast 1 blade black.

3) In the final war vs WG , he will have to surpass a challenge that would without a shred of doubt surpass even Sword God Ryuma's hype & portrayal.

4) Zoro vs [ Adult S-Hawk final version(which in itself could theoretically surpass Mihawk by the time final war begins) + Garling +
Ghandi Gorosei ] one after the other & not all at once .

5) Adult S-Hawk version (in the process of loosing to 100% strength Zoro) should be able to make Zoro weak enough that his fights with Garling & Ghandi Gorosei won't be easy. And a challenge like that would be deserving of achieving 3 black blades in the process.
And that would surely be worthy of being considered someone whose name will reach even the heavens.

6) Ghandi Gorosei (possibly was alive even in Ryuma's era) at the end might accept & say that Zoro's feats now surpass even Ryuma's .

Quite possibly Ryuma fought off the 5 Gorosei when they might have tried to do that island civilian hunting game on Wano & probably that's how Ryuma & Wano got that reputation on top of its geography.

7) I don't think Mihawk will be Zoro's ceiling. Zoro has got to surpass Ryuma as well.
 
#37
Either the Gorosei is in a different caterogry than a swordman (like a monster, alien or something), or he's a weaker swordman than Mihawk...Oda has never retconned any "strongest title". Kaido was never revoked of his title despite losing to Luffy. You can still be the strongest and still lose to someone weaker. That's how real world works.
 
#38
1) Ultimately Zoro needs to surpass Sword God Ryuma (portrayal wise hyped as strongest swordsman of all time) & not just Mihawk (currently undoubtedly the strongest swordsman of the present).

2) Zoro will beat Mihawk to get the title of WSS before the final war with WG. By the end of this fight , he ought to have turned atleast 1 blade black.

3) In the final war vs WG , he will have to surpass a challenge that would without a shred of doubt surpass even Sword God Ryuma's hype & portrayal.

4) Zoro vs [ Adult S-Hawk final version(which in itself could theoretically surpass Mihawk by the time final war begins) + Garling +
Ghandi Gorosei ] one after the other & not all at once .

5) Adult S-Hawk version (in the process of loosing to 100% strength Zoro) should be able to make Zoro weak enough that his fights with Garling & Ghandi Gorosei won't be easy. And a challenge like that would be deserving of achieving 3 black blades in the process.
And that would surely be worthy of being considered someone whose name will reach even the heavens.

6) Ghandi Gorosei (possibly was alive even in Ryuma's era) at the end might accept & say that Zoro's feats now surpass even Ryuma's .

Quite possibly Ryuma fought off the 5 Gorosei when they might have tried to do that island civilian hunting game on Wano & probably that's how Ryuma & Wano got that reputation on top of its geography.

7) I don't think Mihawk will be Zoro's ceiling. Zoro has got to surpass Ryuma as well.
All based on the assumption that Ryuma is above Mihawk.
 
#40
1) Ultimately Zoro needs to surpass Sword God Ryuma (portrayal wise hyped as strongest swordsman of all time) & not just Mihawk (currently undoubtedly the strongest swordsman of the present).

2) Zoro will beat Mihawk to get the title of WSS before the final war with WG. By the end of this fight , he ought to have turned atleast 1 blade black.

3) In the final war vs WG , he will have to surpass a challenge that would without a shred of doubt surpass even Sword God Ryuma's hype & portrayal.

4) Zoro vs [ Adult S-Hawk final version(which in itself could theoretically surpass Mihawk by the time final war begins) + Garling +
Ghandi Gorosei ] one after the other & not all at once .

5) Adult S-Hawk version (in the process of loosing to 100% strength Zoro) should be able to make Zoro weak enough that his fights with Garling & Ghandi Gorosei won't be easy. And a challenge like that would be deserving of achieving 3 black blades in the process.
And that would surely be worthy of being considered someone whose name will reach even the heavens.

6) Ghandi Gorosei (possibly was alive even in Ryuma's era) at the end might accept & say that Zoro's feats now surpass even Ryuma's .

Quite possibly Ryuma fought off the 5 Gorosei when they might have tried to do that island civilian hunting game on Wano & probably that's how Ryuma & Wano got that reputation on top of its geography.

7) I don't think Mihawk will be Zoro's ceiling. Zoro has got to surpass Ryuma as well.
YES, but all depends on how Bold Gorosei will be portrayed
 
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