Chapter Discussion Beyond dragons and dinos

[Gol D. Roger]

You guys better tonedown the King is more durable than Kaido talk for a bit. I am telling you, It's not gonna look good when Zoro slices him off.

The toughest in the world is in the Wano and it is not Kaido.

Toughest in the world is Jozu though.

 

[ConquistadoR]

And then you remember that Kaido is also an oni, so King's statement is pretty much empty hype for the fight.

Also, the Spanish version speaks of "dragons" in plural, in case you guys want to discuss translations.

But the point of the statement is pretty clear though - he isn't referring to the Dragons in Punk Hazard or the Dinosaurs in Little Garden, the context of his words specifically refer to Kaido (The Dragon) and the Ancient Zoans (The Dinosaurs), basically the Beast Pirates crew. And even if there is a plural used for Dragons, it probably included Momonosuke, who uses the same devil fruit as Kaido.

 

[nik87]

You guys better tonedown the King is more durable than Kaido talk for a bit. I am telling you, It's not gonna look good when Zoro slices him off.



Toughest in the world is Jozu though.

Zoro can already cut everything though.
While King does have some way of reducing damage from those cuts to close to zero, Jozu doesnt.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Not Just durable. King is slightly better than Kaido in everything.

this is embarassing

that is just not true

 

[nik87]

this is embarassing

that is just not true

Did you see my compilation of King vs Kaido feats?

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Zoro can already cut everything though.
While King does have some way of reducing damage from those cuts to close to zero, Jozu doesnt.

Literally can't cut through King's defenses....

Nik - "Zoro can already cut through everything though."

10/10 will read again.

 

[nik87]

Literally can't cut through King's defenses....

Zoro already cut through King, go look back.
I cant spoon feed you everything.

 

[Thabeast]

Ohh Zoro says "The Dragon" so he's talking about Kaido only, interesting

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Zoro already cut through King, go look back.
I cant spoon feed you everything.

King wasn't prepared for it the first time. Since the fight actually started, and King is prepared for it, Zoro has been unable to cut him.

I can't spoon feed you everything.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Did you see my compilation of King vs Kaido feats?

am sure king pushing zoro off the edge of the island
and overpowering zoro in the sword clash
makes him better than kaido at everything
shrugs.....

 

[Geo]

direct manga statement of King saying he is beyond the damage soaking capabilities of "The Dragon and Dinosaurs".

One piece fandom: No that never happened..:cantseeme::cantseeme:

 

[Lor D. Coast]

King wasn't prepared for it the first time. Since the fight actually started, and King is prepared for it, Zoro has been unable to cut him.

It's a prep thing now? So that time that hybrid Marco allegedly made base King bleed was because King was caught off guard.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

only conclusion we can draw so far is his wings might be more durable than the scales

he's already bled against marco and zoro when he left himself unguarded .

 

[Lor D. Coast]

direct manga statement of King saying he is beyond the damage soaking capabilities of "The Dragon and Dinosaurs".

One piece fandom: No that never happened..:cantseeme::cantseeme:

I-It's just the wings besides Kaido never blocks...

 

[ConquistadoR]

only conclusion we can draw so far is his wings might be more durable than the scales

he's already bled against marco and zoro when he left himself unguarded .

Yeah, King's technique is an active ability and needs to be used while Kaido's scales are a passive ability.

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Yeah, King's technique is an active ability and needs to be used while Kaido's scales are a passive ability.

yup
kaido's scales wont be harder in guard position
so if kaido attempted to block without armament
he would still be cut.


seems like if king can wrap himself in his wings
his durability can surpass that
so the right answer is yes and no, its situational . if he can react on time, his durability is up there.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

only conclusion we can draw so far is his wings might be more durable than the scales

he's already bled against marco and zoro when he left himself unguarded .

The wings or wtv straight out mitigates damage beyond Kaido's ability, that's what the panels are showing us and then King's damage soak which is a whole different thing is also hyped.

 

[The White Crane]

You guys better tonedown the King is more durable than Kaido talk for a bit. I am telling you, It's not gonna look good when Zoro slices him off.

Why? Zoro has cut Kaido a couple of times before. His slicing off King does not mean King is not tougher than Kaido. It just means Zoro is stronger than both King and Kaido.

 

[Zowo]

But the point of the statement is pretty clear though - he isn't referring to the Dragons in Punk Hazard or the Dinosaurs in Little Garden, the context of his words specifically refer to Kaido (The Dragon) and the Ancient Zoans (The Dinosaurs), basically the Beast Pirates crew. And even if there is a plural used for Dragons, it probably included Momonosuke, who uses the same devil fruit as Kaido.

zoro fights a dragon on the roof top
nah he talks about the punk hazzard dragons
the copium

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only conclusion we can draw so far is his wings might be more durable than the scales

he's already bled against marco and zoro when he left himself unguarded .

its def not the wings
his lunarian abilities gives him a boost
or its both combined

 

[ConquistadoR]

zoro fights a dragon on the roof top
nah he talks about the punk hazzard dragons
the copium

I legit saw some users/trolls use that argument lmaoo that shit was hilarious.